Poster: A snowHead
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Recently got back from 10 days in Arc 1800. Had a wonderful time with the family. Skied for a week and loved it.
My son asked if he could try snowboarding so i booked 2 days lessons for the boy, wife and I.
I am now a changed man, I would not class myself as a skier anymore!
Snowboarding is for me. Within 2 hours we all were going down the slope side to side.
Ive skied for 4 years and my wife and son the same but the feeling for me is so much better. I felt more in control than i even have on snow. By day 3 we were all going down solo, heel side edge, toe side edge and changing direction easily (apart from the wife who fell and bruised her back).
We all fell many times but its nothing like falling when skiiing, the fear of your skis twisting and a knee poping just wasnt there!
The most important part is the boots! No longer will i walk in tight uncomfortably boots, clip clopping around, slidding on snow and looking a fool. The Snowboard boots are such a luxury after skiing, why would anyone want to put ski ones on again!
I recemmend it to anyone who is thinking about it. I really dont think i will ski again.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Surfstar, do you surf?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Nah. Admit, it. You just like sitting in the middle of the piste.
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krekeg, I kitesurf which is probably why it came more naturally
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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We all fell many times but its nothing like falling when skiiing, the fear of your skis twisting and a knee poping just wasnt there!
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It's much worse falling on a board plus you obviously weren't that good a skier
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skidonald, To be honest i wouldnt say i was that good a skier and im not saying im that good a snowboarder im just passing on my thoughts on my holiday
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skidonald wrote: |
It's much worse falling on a board plus you obviously weren't that good a skier |
Errr... harsh.
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Fair play for even trying both. I can't bring myself to sacrifice the skiing time to give boarding a go!
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surfstar, I am glad it works for you. Whatever floats your boat, as they say in Barrow in Furness.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Novice falling on skis...."whoah i am so good at this skiing lark...whoah im falling....., yup I've fallen"
Novice falling on board..."Whoah I am so good at this snowboar.........BLAM...what the f&*k happened"
Yep it kind of felt like that!
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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surfstar, congratulations
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When I started boarding I didn't ski for about 2 years (apart from instruction which I do weekly at local dry slope). I went on a couple of hols and took my skis as well as my board but never used them,. then went to Fernie for a few weeks and for the first time left my skis at home. I also thought I probably wouldn't ski again recreationally. However that has all changed now and I split the two evenly and can't say which I enjoy more.
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You know it makes sense.
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surfstar wrote: |
Recently got back from 10 days in Arc 1800. Had a wonderful time with the family. Skied for a week and loved it.
My son asked if he could try snowboarding so i booked 2 days lessons for the boy, wife and I.
I am now a changed man, I would not class myself as a skier anymore!
Snowboarding is for me. Within 2 hours we all were going down the slope side to side.
Ive skied for 4 years and my wife and son the same but the feeling for me is so much better. I felt more in control than i even have on snow. By day 3 we were all going down solo, heel side edge, toe side edge and changing direction easily (apart from the wife who fell and bruised her back).
We all fell many times but its nothing like falling when skiiing, the fear of your skis twisting and a knee poping just wasnt there!
The most important part is the boots! No longer will i walk in tight uncomfortably boots, clip clopping around, slidding on snow and looking a fool. The Snowboard boots are such a luxury after skiing, why would anyone want to put ski ones on again!
I recemmend it to anyone who is thinking about it. I really dont think i will ski again. |
You are bang on the money.
The tray is easier than the planks.
Ideal for the over-30s.
Wise man.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Always nice to have a mix, im sure i will ski again but not for a while
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Kruisler, It seems like im not alone. (I can hear the whispering curses from the dedicated skiers!)
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surfstar, Welcome to the Darkside, you can now start posting in the 'Snowboarding' Section
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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surfstar, it is a lot of fun. A few years ago I thought I'd try it and loved it.
However, am now back skiing as is easier to take kids out when skiing than boarding. May have another go on board when they're old enough to board.
I think everyone should try others perspective to see what its like
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surfstar, your post is exactly what I didn't want to read. H and I both love skiing and go several times a year, and we are both kind of curious to try boarding, just to 'have a go', but I bet if we do, then exactly the same thing will happen, and our skis will be abandoned. I don't honestly know that many people who enjoy both equally (there are probably loads on here though), although do know lots of people who can do both (they all choose to board!).
Think we will stick to planks for now, but still want to give it a try.
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my boyfriend keeps trying to get me to switch from skis to board, but it's taken me 5 years to get to a point where i feel i can ski with some flair and really enjoy pelting down a piste at speed. for these reasons (plus all the money i've spent on boots and skis) i don't really fancy going back to the falling over and being scared stage. i'm not sure i even want to waste a day of my precious holiday trying it out when i could be having a great time skiing.
i would also take issue with the idea that skiing wipe outs are worse than boarding ones. i've seen some truly awful boarding stacks, all of which have been worsened by the fact that the board stays attached to your feet.
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H and I both love skiing and go several times a year, and we are both kind of curious to try boarding, just to 'have a go',
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is that known as "board-curious"?
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I tried boarding about 5 years ago at a time when I was a fairly accomplished skier and only had one ski holiday per year. I struggled for 3 days, fell over a lot, was black and blue but finally got to a point where I was able to come down greens reasonably well. However I couldn't bare to think of spending an entire holiday or more sticking to blues and greens so I went back to skiing.
This year I moved to Canada and so now expect to be on the slopes most weekends during the 7 month season. So I decided I would give boarding another go as I could now afford to spend more time on intermediate runs. I promised myself that I would board until Christmas and then go back to skis. I did board until Christmas and got to quite a reasonable level, able to turn on heel and toe, able to maintain speed and balance to cross flat sections, attempting easier blacks and starting to 'carve'. However, due to a combination of the more challenging areas at Sunshine still not being terribly good and us having friends staying with us who were first time skiers, I actually stayed on my board all last week as well.
I'm sure I'm still a skier at heart, I enjoy boarding but don't find better, just different (I also have some Snowblades that I take out occasionally for a change and a bit of fun!). What I do enjoy is having a challenge again, being a learner again. Its not that I was the worlds greatest skier, not by a long way, but I had got to the stage where my areas needing significant improvement were things like skiing moguls aggressively (too much hard work for me and I'm nowhere near fit enough) and skiing powder (conditions are of course the major restriction here, but I will be back on skis after the next big dump!). I really enjoy having to concentrate and work hard again just to get down a piste rather than having to 'go looking' for a challenge.
So, I'm certainly not a 'Changed man' in the same way as surfstar, but I may well be on one plank for a little longer yet
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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abc, interesting points abc. I simply tried something new and prefered it.
"The ones who say it's "better" borading tend to be the type who are frustrated on ski. They found a "way out" with boarding"
I disgree with this comment, i can happily ski reds and mild blacks and understand why a ski boot should be a "comfortable" tight fit.
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You know it makes sense.
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I first tried it 11 years ago & switched completely 8 years ago.
It didn't come naturally to me, I found skiing much easier, but I love the feeling of carving on a board.
I'll probably go back to skiing when I get older ( I find snowboarding physically more demanding than skiing), but for now it's boarding that I love.
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Thanks, solarfish, I should have read more carefully, confusing the two "fishes"!
surfstar, so disregard what I posted above. Then my original opinion stands. You were only into "mild" blacks. Do I gather that's on days when condition is "good" (i.e. not icy, not bumpped up)? Because those are the condition boards don't do well. Well, I'm sure good boarders can handle it. But average boarders stay away entirely.
I see the dividing line being boarding has a plateau at the bluu/"mild" black level, while boarding has a plateau at the SOLID black level. (No personal experience about the later part here, just from other boarders' comments. Plus I also don't see too many boarders on the harder blacks at all). I don't know if you're carving your board on black, or at least believe you could do that shortly...?
Personally, I see a VERY long process if I can ever board to the same level of my skiing. Your prospective is obviously different.
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Winterhighland, Glad to see you didn't just heel edge it down!
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I worked a season in 94 still in the days of 200cm skinny skis> I had a serious think about boarding rather than skiing or even splitting my time between the two. I decided to stick with skiiing because I had some base (six weeks) and knew that I would only work one season - thought I should try to get decent at one thing rather than mediocre at two. That season I was rather jeallous of boarders who were able to handle crud and heavy powder in a way that I couldn't on long skinny skis.
Since then, as skis have got wider and more shaped, I have got less and less interested in boarding. I don't see what advantages boards have over skis these days (I even think the pros look better in the park on skis than on boards). Except perhaps the learning curve for beginners/early intermediates is steeper.
A few years ago I skied in Whistler with a local Canadian guy who was a much better skier than I will ever be. He said that he tried boarding, thought it was wonderful, gave up skiing and though he would never ski again. Three years later he was back on skis -he found that the boarding learning curve was fast but then you plateaud at a level that was boring. For him, skiing offered much more variety, more to work on, more scope for improvement, more interest.
I think whitegold is right, if you start skiing/boarding later in life and are never going to have the time to get good at either then boarding offers you the best prospect of getting half-way competent quickly. Otherwise I reckon skis repay the extra investment in learning.
Cheers,
J
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Where do freestyle skiers fit in this categorisation? They look, dress and behave more like snowboaders, they hang out in the park but they are on two planks not a tray?
I haven't boarded but now have twin tips and they are more fun than normal skis (although I like skiercross and GS skis), with my Volkl Karma I can go backwards, spin, go off jumps, sit down on the tails, bomb it in powder, grip on ice, carve slow or fast... anything really!
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