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A number of ex colleagues of mine (I no longer work for their company) are complaining about the duration and location of their 2005 H1 sales meeting.

Do they have cause for complaint or are they just a bunch of miserable so n so’s?

Location – Courchevel 1850

Agenda

Mon 21st Feb – Arrive Courch (Sun night accom is provided FOC if rq'd)
Tues 22nd Feb – 0830 to 1430 meetings – Rest of the day is your own
Wed 23rd Feb – 0830 to 1430 meetings – Rest of the day is your own
Thur 24th Feb – 0830 to 1230 meetings – 1900 - ???? Exit dinner
Fri 25th Feb – optional return home but Friday night stay is also FOC

Accom is 4* with all the trimmings (pool, Hammam etc)
Out of hours events include night husky ride to and from mountain restaurant for Exit Dinner, ice driving, wine tasting, ski/board lessons, Ice climbing, snow shoeing etc… Lift passes, equip hire food and drink is paid for by the company.
Additionally, for those who wish to add a couple of days either side, a peferential hotel rate (£50) has been negotiated for the Friday and Saturday night before the meeting and the Saturday and Sunday after the meetings.
PARTNERS are welcome but are obviously not invited to the work events such as the meetings, Exit Dinner, ice driving etc.

The skiers in the company are over the moon but there are a ½ doz individuals really hacked off by the dragged out nature of the trip(these guys don’t ski)

Can there be any justification for my ex colleagues to grumble?
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Mrs Laundryman, who is in fact Dr Laundryman, went on a "conference" in La Thuile last season. The lectures (including one on ski/board injuries) were in the evening, much better than the above schedule for those more interested in skiing than partying.

If the non-skiers above can't see interesting opportunities in Courchevel, one wonders what they're doing as sales persons!
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 Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Do you know if they have any openings Boardski, I could join mid Feb and leave end of Feb Laughing
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It would have been better to give them an evening meeting schedule, Im sure I would loose my way and need a piste map to find the meetings and I would have to go via the lifts. Wink
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Boardski and you left the company, gutted!!!!!!!!!
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Wonder if anyone turns up in salopettes for the afternoon sessions!
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laundryman Dr Laundryman wouldnt perchance be a particle physicist? Or do other fields have such cunning plans?
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 After all it is free Go on u know u want to!
After all it is free Go on u know u want to!
Boardski, give them a slap- tell them to stop being so ungrateful - it could have been in Milton Keynes or something!
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Nadenoodle, Verbal slap applied in true Glasgow (well Paisley) style - Previous meeting was in Manchester in feb 2004
Frosty, Knowing the MD they'll have the afternoon sessions in the boot room or in lift queues Wink

For me they are a bunch of ungrateful "%&$£.

I'm not too gutted on missing the trip as I left some time ago, but when you consider how others spend their working day these guys have it easy.

Up to 4.5 days, Courchevel, skiing, ice driving, husky sled rides, food, booze FREE OF CHARGE!!!
If I were in charge I'd boot them round the office for complaining about it. Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
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Mark Lehto wrote:
laundryman Dr Laundryman wouldnt perchance be a particle physicist? Or do other fields have such cunning plans?

Nope, a GP with some other medical side lines thrown in. Medics tend to get conferences subsidised by pharmaceutical companies, so they're not generally in places like Milton Keynes (with apologies to anyone who lives there).
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If I were in charge I'd sack them for it and take people who really wanted to go. I think I'm free then! In fact it would mean back to back ski trips for me - perfect!
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hayley t, you've not heard about employment tribunals then! Now, you and I might consider such whining as constituting just cause for summary dismissal, but employers are no longer free agents in these matters!
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I know laundryman - in an ideal world . . . . Wink
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 You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
Boardski, how awful for them, Courchevel, my heart bleeds-NOT. All us paharmacists get are some free pens and notepads. No perks for us I'm afraid.
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I'm just off the phone to one of the grumpy ones and I'm livid.
There he is grumping away about how bollox the whole Courchevel thing is and then spouts "I think it's unreasonable to expect us to travel on a Sunday, I mean, after all, it's not as if were getting paid over time or nuffink!"
Argh.......what a miserable scumbag!
It also highlighted that in addition to the trip being free the morons are being paid to play in Courchevel.
Sacking is to good for these miserable bunch of tossers. They should be taken to Courchevel and left up the mountain permanently!
Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
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salesmen - waddaya expect?
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Boardski wrote:
I'm just off the phone to one of the grumpy ones and I'm livid.

Easy solution;Conferance call the meetings,or even video link(still cheaper than taking the morons out there)and in the free time they could do some file tidying or cleaning.How can they complain,they dont want to go anyway.Perfect result IMHO Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
Suggest a quiet word with the organiser if poss,just to wake the ungratefull
sh1ts up.Sound like a right bunch of spoilt kids,obviously in sales or marketing??
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 Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
OI, Ibt!
I'm a salesman. Were not all self obsessed, slimy spoilt brats. Some of us are quite genuine and reasonable people. Little Angel Little Angel Little Angel
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Boardski wrote:
Some of us are quite genuine and reasonable people. Little Angel Little Angel Little Angel

Really Wink Wink Wink
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Boardski, Clearly not that bunch. Ski teachers have to PAY to go to the very few things organised. These people should be put immediatley on the rack, just to make sure that they can't try ski-ing/boarding! Wink
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