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OK. Here we go.
I was browsing another forum (not EpicSki) - and came across these comments:
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| I saw that video a few weeks ago after it was posted on a different (primarily Euro) forum. Unfortunately Britain has never been known for their skiing prowess so I suspect that the skiing in this video reflects that. I will admit that when I first saw the video I had a good laugh at the expense of those in the clips. Many do not have the same standards for skiing that are present here (as well as in most racing circles). |
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| My mistake - this may be a different video then, or the person who directed me to it was incorrect about where it originated from. I saw one a few weeks ago that was supposedly done by a group of British ski instructors (was posted at a forum called snowheads). Someone directed me to it so I could see how bad it was. I somehow thought that this was the same one. It may be that the person who directed me to it was incorrect about where it originated. Regardless of where it is from it is still poor skiing. |
I am now intrigued and curious to look at these videos for myself, but can't recall any with the description as above. The only thing I can think of is a Warren Smith video, or maybe some of the SCGB vids? But I don't recall those being posted on here?
Can anyone help point me in the direction of the so called bad skiing video, of a group of British Ski Instructors?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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No idea. Interski perhaps (is the Korean video available yet?), although I'd be surprised if there was a significant difference in performance from the UK team to any other nation.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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veeeight, Could you not post on the forum and ask?
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veeeight, I have REAL good idea what forum it might have been on.
As T-bar says - post and ask! (or if the user who posted it posts here or on Epic, why not PM them?)
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brian
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Wear The Fox Hat, I can harbly think what you might be alluding to ? 
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brian, good catch!
veeeight, PM Greg on Epic, he'll let you know where he saw it!
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brian
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I'm not registered on that particular forum (not good enough), I was just intrigued to watch those videos for myself.
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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roga, there's a big difference between what that forum says, and what most others say. 
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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What a patronising bunch of so and so's! They really are up themselves aren't they 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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If you really want a video of bad skiing, maybe we should dig up that thread of mine...
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rob@rar, He's posted on snowHeads too. We're not worthy.
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You know it makes sense.
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| Spyderman wrote: |
| rob@rar, He's posted on snowHeads too. We're not worthy. |
Indeed we're not. Should I retire now, or make it through until the end of the season before creating a bonfire from my skis?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Spyderman, Harald? Really?
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I'd have thought it was the Danish stuff if anything and I wouldn't worry about the experts. On the one occasion I strayed on there I thought I'd come across the very definition of humourless, self-obsessed onanists.
I think Brit skiers might have a poor general reputation in the US because either many don't come across them so assume that they don't ski like they do and when they do make the hop over the pond to a Euro resort they are swamped with Brit punters of variable ability. Remember lots of keen US skiers ski every weekend v 2 or 3 weeks at best for most Brits.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Wear The Fox Hat wrote: |
| Spyderman, Harald? Really? |
No, the posts mentioned aren't by him.
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fatbob, Most Americans don't know where the UK is on a map, never mind Denmark.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Brits may not be the worlds greatest, but the Yanks have got Texans and that does our average no harm at all. Oddly the single worst skier (no discernible talent, potential, improvement over a week or brain) I ever saw in my life was a Canadian from BC. So it goes no helping some people.
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| roga wrote: |
Seriously though it's an interesting point about the standard of Brit skiers, is this how we're generally seen? |
No.
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| They're stopping the lift |
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| Brits! |
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little tiger, is that meant to be a provocative comment, or am I reading it wrong?
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brian
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| little tiger wrote: |
| ... but then we all know I know nada because I choose to take lessons and learn... |
Oh for pete's sake, grow up.
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rob@rar, of course not! Stop picking on her!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Well, I see I'm famous. A PM would have been thoughtful, but since we're airing dirty laundry, lets get to it. When I first was pointed to that video clip I was told it was British (apparently it is danish?)... Regardless it still isn't good carving - sorry. As far as Britain not known for its skiing prowess - it isn't - sorry again. Look at a WC podium sometime (or any other skiing competition for that matter). A country like Austria for example IS known for it's skiing prowess... See the contrast? Now that we are on the same page is anyone interested in learning why it isn't good carving or would you rather continue on uninterrupted? My apologies for the bruised egos.
Have fun kids.
Later
Greg
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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HeluvaSkier, it seemed to me that you and others in that thread were criticising a much wider range of skiers than WC skiers of various nationalities who do/do not reach podium positions. It seemed fairly sweeping criticism of the most snide kind. Is it reasonable to criticise national ski instruction systems or even recreational skiers based on the performance of their elite athletes?
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| HeluvaSkier wrote: |
Now that we are on the same page is anyone interested in learning why it isn't good carving or would you rather continue on uninterrupted? My apologies for the bruised egos.
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If you can be bothered to follow the link to the relevant snowHeads thread posted above you will find that those carving videos have already been criticised here by a number of people.
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You know it makes sense.
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| rob@rar wrote: |
| HeluvaSkier wrote: |
Now that we are on the same page is anyone interested in learning why it isn't good carving or would you rather continue on uninterrupted? My apologies for the bruised egos.
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If you can be bothered to follow the link to the relevant snowHeads thread posted above you will find that those carving videos have already been criticised here by a number of people. |
Then why is it such a big deal that I criticized them?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| comprex wrote: |
| roga wrote: |
Seriously though it's an interesting point about the standard of Brit skiers, is this how we're generally seen? |
No.
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| They're stopping the lift |
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| Brits! |
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LOL, that's conclusive then 
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| Well, I see I'm famous. A PM would have been thoughtful, but since we're airing dirty laundry, lets get to it. When I first was pointed to that video clip I was told it was British (apparently it is danish?)... Regardless it still isn't good carving - sorry. |
Eeeerm, there was already a thread here where everyone came to the same conclusion - you have a different POV or are you trying to argue with people who agree with you?
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| As far as Britain not known for its skiing prowess - it isn't - sorry again. |
S'allright we have the capacity to take criticism and disagreement (and loosing) on the chin without starting minor (or major) 'skirmishes' (at least those of us who aren't England football fans  ) 
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| Look at a WC podium sometime (or any other skiing competition for that matter). A country like Austria for example IS known for it's skiing prowess... See the contrast? |
Absolutely and we're cr*p at many sports it has to be said and even when we do get medals drugged up North American Vicks sinuses do us out of 'em - it's a conspiracy I tell ya!
Speaking of medals lost, just so we can get this straight, you dissing the Scots as part of the rubbish at skiing Brits thing?
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| Now that we are on the same page is anyone interested in learning why it isn't good carving or would you rather continue on uninterrupted? |
We've done that though or do you have something particularly novel to add?
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| My apologies for the bruised egos. |
Where, are we all included in the generalisation as well then, BASI instructors et al?
And there's me thinking us Snowheads were exempt form your slings and arrows... 
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| rob@rar wrote: |
| HeluvaSkier, it seemed to me that you and others in that thread were criticising a much wider range of skiers than WC skiers of various nationalities who do/do not reach podium positions. It seemed fairly sweeping criticism of the most snide kind. Is it reasonable to criticise national ski instruction systems or even recreational skiers based on the performance of their elite athletes? |
I was commenting by the performance of the skiing displayed in the videos and aligning it with the performance of the WC athletes... When was the last time that you saw Britain regarded as a ski technique think-tank? It is reasonable to criticize the systems when you are clearly given examples of those who are "the six best instructors" from nation X and they are clearly all very poorly demonstrating a specific skill (in this case carving). The comment was not snide, nor was it intended to be. I'd prefer to leave it at that before any further visual evidence is brought into play...
Later
Greg
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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roga,
You guys started the thread - not me.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| roga wrote: |
| We've done that though or do you have something particularly novel to add? |
Judging from yours and others attitudes I'm certain that most of what is said here falls on deaf ears.
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roga,
Listen, I didn't come over here to get into a d!ck swinging contest with you guys. A thread was started and some fairly rude comments were made about a comment I made on another forum. I came here to clarify what I said. Take it or leave it. I didn't come here to compare my skiing ability to anyone else's although there are some here who can vouch for my skiing ability if you really think you need to know that badly. You have some great educators in your midst here, but as I said, the knowledge probably falls on deaf ears. You seem to be a prime example given your eagerness to argue with me over nothing...
Later
Greg
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If the Caingorms were the Alps and the Pennines - the Rockies, then we would be a better ski nation. Could we see a bit more respect when posting please.
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brian
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Frosty the Snowman, we are a better ski nation (than you  ).
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