Poster: A snowHead
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Going to be in BC for a 3 week road trip Jan '08, been there a few times before but never visited Whistler.
Plan for this year is to arrive in Vancouver for a couple of days, buy new skis, ski Grouse mtn, Seymour & Cypress mtn, then head for the hills.
First stop Whistler, before our usual circuit of Apex, Big White, Silver Star & Sun Peaks. Looking at my map we can carry on North, through Whistler on highway 99 eventualy arriving in Kamloops (Sun Peaks). Google maps estimates this at just over 4 hrs, which is a dam sight quicker than heading back down to Vancouver and up Highway 1/5 etc to the Okanagen.
My question is, how reliable is Highway 99 in typical winter conditions? My map describes it as "secondary highway" and previous trips have only involved "primary highway".
We will be in a standard Vancouver issue 4x4, so no chains or winter tyres, (but plenty of Alpine winter driving experience in dodgy transit vans!)
Discuss.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I've not done '99 N of Whistler, but have heard that it's only recently (last 5-10 years) that this has become a sealed (i.e. tarmac) road. Have done lots of road is the area (1, 8, 12, 97C) and not had any issues, but you do need to be prepared for spending 4-8 hours behind a snowplough at 30mph.
Basic rules are: take it gently, don't rush, give yourself plenty of time. [Err, they all sound like the same thing..]
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Thanks RobW, have driven quite a bit in BC too, so know what to expect.
Been thinking about my original question and the gist of it is......
Whistler -> Okanagen, which is quickest/most practical? (obviously blizzard conditions will alter final decision)
H99 north to Kamloops
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H99 south to Vancouver. H1, H97 etc to Penticon, Kelowna, Vernon etc
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How about calling Sun Peaks and ask them directly?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I wouldn't bank on it being passable it in January.
The drive north to Pemberton should be clear. That's mostly 3 lane with 2 lane sections. About 8 miles north of Pemberton you hit the Duffy Lake Road (which you'll see signs about just as you leave Squamish). The bottom 5k of that is between 12 and 15% with hairpins. After that, it's uphill for another 8k before it undulates and twists for a long way, then it drops steeply into Lilloet. The last section into Lilloet is undoubtedly the worst. I drove that the other way this summer, and I remember thinking how much I would not fancy driving it in winter. And I like driving.
Now I'd guess that they make an effort to keep the road open as far as Lilloet, but in Jan, if you arrive in the middle of a storm, there's a reasonable chance it simply won't be open.
North of Lilloet is a pretty spectacular drive that becomes boring after a while. There's a section from Lilloet until it joins a more major road (about 1/2 way to Kamloops) which I think would be the most likely bit to be blocked. IIRC we did Kamloops to Whistler in just over 3 hours on this route in the middle of summer doing some lunatic fast driving. I think the Whistler locals quote 8 hours from Whistler to Vancouver airport going north in winter, assuming it's open.
Going to Revelstoke? I think they will havetheir first new lift running this winter.
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greg66, welcome to snowHeads, an excellent and informative first post, exactly the kind of information I was looking for.
Based on what you say, we will probably head south again after Whistler, if they have snow we might stop in at one of the Vancouver resorts for a day on the way through, then head for a few days at Apex before going North to BW. SS & SP. Not sure if we will visit Revelstoke, been following the developments, looks like it's going to be amazing but think it will have to wait for another year.
Thanks once again.
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greg66, talks sense about winter conditions I've driven it in April and it was anice drive but not particualrly quick - to the mid or south Okanagan I'd think 99/1 might be almost as quick.
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1 guest, We did the Duffy Lake Road both directions in March 2006 and it was a lovely drive but we were lucky with the weather. I also agree with greg66 that it would be rather scary in winter with a good chance of being closed during a storm. On the way back, we did Vernon to Whistler in about 6 hours with a couple of short stops en route.
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I've driven that way twice, heading to both Apex and Kamloops after a day at Whistler. Roads was fine both times, but weather was good.
Just check the weather/roads conditions before you go. It's an incredibly scenic road and well worth the drive, but if weather looks bad, go other way. Time wise, if conditions are good, I suspect there's little in either route.
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Hey Robbie! 25 sleeps until we come out to see you (with emergency supplies of Percy Pigs and Jammy Dodgers)
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