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as I've just done.

School disco and I'm doing 5,6,7,8 with my daughter, knee went right, hip went left, ankle went left, left knee went 'pop' Aaaarghhhhh...........Its not so bad now I'm home but I've got dull ache in my left hip, knee and half way down my calf muscle - god knows what went pop, but I'm kind of wishing it hadn't. I hope it hasn't caused any permanant damage. I can't do what I did 20 years ago any more Sad
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Megamum, owch Shocked I do hope that it isn't too bad
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If you can walk, you can ski, dont worry about it, get well soon Smile
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I'll know if I've done anything serious if I can't use the exercise machine tomorrow - I was just thinking today how good the old legs felt as well when I was on it earlier. The one think about what I did dancing is that the legs were quite warmed up when it happened which might have helped things. The annoying thing is that I wasn't even in high heels. I will report back tomorrow on how it feels - at the moment it just feels kind of odd.
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That's what you get for embarrassing your poor daughter NehNeh
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IMO dont do too much tomorrow, i would'nt use the rowing machine, i'd just do a brisk walk, not too much pressure, give it chance to sort it's self out.
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Poor you, and actually, poor daughter... I know a mum's job is to be embarrassing, but...

Dull ache = probably nothing major. The tearing of a cruciate ligament is often associated with "a sickening 'pop'", but then lots of pain and swelling. Take some painkillers, strap up your knee using double tubigrip* and gently get it moving again. If your knee becomes increasingly swollen and painful, get it looked at. If it settles, keep moving it and gently get exercising again. Use this time to work on core balance exercises.

Knees are difficult to diagnose when they're acutely swollen, so unkess the pain is saying "see a Dr now", try to let it settle, but don't let it stiffen.

I'd avoid 'The Exercise Machine' until the pain goes.

*There is some debate whether this is useful or not

DrE

Painkillers:
Paracetamol 1g (2*500mg tabs) 4 times a day;
Ibuprofen 200-400mg 4 times a day (check with pharmacist that no contraindications exist)

you can take those together.

I think I might start a thread about pain relief. Any thoughts?
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as I've just done.

School disco and I'm doing 5,6,7,8 with my daughter, knee went right, hip went left, ankle went left, left knee went 'pop' Aaaarghhhhh...........Its not so bad now I'm home but I've got dull ache in my left hip, knee and half way down my calf muscle - god knows what went pop, but I'm kind of wishing it hadn't. I hope it hasn't caused any permanant damage. I can't do what I did 20 years ago any more Sad


Four weeks too late Wink If its swollen apply ice, raise it etc... You may have just lightly dislocated it or something benign happened. But as someone said.. if you can walk, you can ski.
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Timmaah wrote:
You may have just lightly dislocated it


It's either dislocated or not.

And if you'd dislocated your knee, or patella, you'd be in A&E. Not wondering whether you might get on your exercise machine.
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doctor_eeyore, from witnessing several dislocated knees, I know what you mean.

Dislocating your knee is usually followed by lots of shouting/screaming in pain, and a very swift trip to the hospital.
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doctor_eeyore wrote:

I think I might start a thread about pain relief. Any thoughts?


Great idea Very Happy
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Aww Megamum, hope it is better soon, big hug.

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I think I might start a thread about pain relief. Any thoughts?


Very good idea. Not just meds, but how to best manage it and promote rapid recovery. I speak, sitting here with lower back pain for which the recommended treatment is totally conflicting - take pain relief and either "rest" or "carry on, you wimp"!.[/b]
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NewSkier, this was interesting yesterday: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article2836326.ece

The results match my experience. I've had acute sciatica a couple of times and am a bit prone to back pain. I've found the most effective treatment is to walk about as much as possible, despite the fact that it hurts - the exercise seems to loosen things up. I don't usually take painkillers (mainly because it doesn't occur to me - my mother was always quite anti giving us medicines and I tend not to think about it), but I find alcohol very useful. I have fended off several episodes of bad back by drinking wine in a hot bath. This is also much more enjoyable than taking assorted pills and lying on the floor.

(And before anyone asks, no my mother was not in the habit of getting us p!ssed when we were ill.) Laughing
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With backs, most people ignore the problem of support by going straight to a back-cruching session. Find a decent physio who will prepare you muscles and then you have a chance of holding it in the right place.

You need god core muscles for this and it probably better done after a consulation and a scan. I have two prolapsed discs and the Specialist says do what I want so I play golf and ski. Jumps are out mostly but otherwise it is manageable.

Megamum, bug..don't try and go through pain at this stage. Let it settle and see where you are from there. Light and gentle stretches ( to see what mobility you have ) are the most I would do with a new injury for starters.
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Megamum, are you selling your skis? Laughing
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Quote:

I think I might start a thread about pain relief. Any thoughts?

Good idea. I often wonder, if I am a bit hurt, whether to rest or carry on. I usually want to carry on, but would obviously stop if I felt this was likely to cause more severe problems. I am not averse to painkillers - in fact I always have a big stock - but I do wonder sometimes whether I should mask the pain, or stick with it as it is telling me something useful. Some professional thoughts on all that would be great.

When I did a big smash, flat onto my back, doing a stupid little jump on skis, it was sore for weeks - sore enough that I got up twice or three times in the night to sit with ice packs on it. It got fixed when I came home and saw a chiropracter. It needed four or five visits (expensive) but she said if I had gone immediately she'd have fixed it in one. But I was in France in a snow-bound ski resort. I did go to the local massage place, and had a very nice soothing time, but it needed crunching. I had to ski very carefully for the intervening weeks, no jerky movements, no falling over (and no jumps...)

Megamum, be gentle with yourself. Non weight bearing, gently, take the affected parts through their range of movement. And definitely no more school discos.
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Megamum, I hope you are a bit better this morning, and you have all my sympathy.
I agree totally with those above about leaving off the exercise machine for a bit.

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I would never say "I told you so", but
I do worry that sudden attempts to get fit can make people feel fitter than they are, and attempt activities they would never usually do before their poor body is ready.
I have no evidence for this - just a hunch.
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pam w, Mr L had physio/massage after a fall a couple of seasons ago, found it helped a lot. Personally, I think he just likes to have an attractive young lady massage what he chooses to call his 'lower back' (ie his bum). Laughing
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pam w, Mr L had physio/massage after a fall a couple of seasons ago, found it helped a lot. Personally, I think he just likes to have an attractive young lady massage what he chooses to call his 'lower back' (ie his bum). Laughing


Now the thought of a nice hunky bloke who might massage my aching back....... Toofy Grin Madeye-Smiley
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OK, I've slept on it - I think I've got away with it - no swelling, just a slight dull residual ache at the bottom of the patella - I'll take it easy for a couple of days and cross my fingers - thanks for all the good wishes - I think they've obviously helped. What else can I do if my son and daughter pull me onto the dance floor.........
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doctor_eeyore wrote:
Timmaah wrote:
You may have just lightly dislocated it


It's either dislocated or not.

And if you'd dislocated your knee, or patella, you'd be in A&E. Not wondering whether you might get on your exercise machine.


From what I've read online you can dislocate it a bit and if it's not severe it usually pops back in on its own, then you have the full dislocations where you need a doctor to put it back in place...

edit: Glad to see you're better megamum!
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Have just applied a tubigrip just to be on the safe side for a couple of days.
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Timmaah wrote:
From what I've read online


From what I've read online, I can enlarge my ummm, member, with some blue tablets, and help some poor Nigerian fellow rescue many millions of dollars from a frozen bank account in Lagos.

Don't believe everything you read on the net. Most of it's b*ll*cks.

A Dislocation is a dislocation whether it reduces spontaneously or not.
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doctor_eeyore, you mean none of that is true? Shocked You'll be telling me next that fake Rolex watches are not a bargain.
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Tubigrip advice - it needs to go from mid thigh to mid shin at least. And double it (fold it back on itself). Take off at night, and several times during the day and get the knee moving.
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Megamum, ouch, hope it's better today. What you need to do is come along to the ski test evening at MK on 6 December to make sure it's properly ok snowHead
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doctor_eeyore, I know that, but I read this on at least three, four different sites. So I figured it to be true, but alas it appears not to be. Also, try not to be so blatantly condescending rolling eyes
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doctor_eeyore, I know that, but I read this on at least three, four different sites. So I figured it to be true, but alas it appears not to be. Also, try not to be so blatantly condescending rolling eyes



Didn't mean to be. But I stand by my point made, even if you didn't like the way I made it.
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not knackered my knees but somebody kindly ran in to the back of my car wrote it off and I'm now suffering from whiplash injury. I can walk but can't move my head enough to walk downstairs never mind ski. Will start to panic if not right soon, already booked hol
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Megamum, hope everything is ok! i know the feeling-usually the "pop" is not good!
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I've just found out what Megamum was REALLY doing - wasn't a school disco at all, she was copying this method of trying out her new skis!


http://youtube.com/v/CFVejkIkQx0 Toofy Grin
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In actual fact the knee actually hasn't been too bad since, but tonight I have been getting odd twinges, whilst not doing too much in particular - just standing still sometimes, down the front of my hip - sort of between where the hip joins the femur at the top of the left leg in the middle - I wonder if its tendon related? Other times everything is fine. I think I'll mend - I usually do, but at the time I did it I definitely wished I hadn't - it really felt odd and painful. However, I think it shows how hooked I now am on this skiing lark that my first thought was of the potential for missing out on the holidays this year rather than any other consideration. snowHead
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Megamum, Sounds like we had better move you to the injured bench for the EOSB!
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Megamum, I know exactly what you mean - while sitting here bored with a bad back what am I thinking? What if this happens again the week before I go skiing?!!
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boredsurfin, It'll take more than a dodgy hip and knee to keep me away - Unless I'm in traction I'll come and use them new skis of mine - even if its on sloe gin and ibuprofen wink - after all I'll then have the rest of the year to recover.
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Megamum, that's the attitude Toofy Grin
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Nik, that sounds grim. get some physio, hope it's better soon...
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Nik, That slipped in without me noticing - Sounds nasty, I hope you're feeling a bit better today.
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