 Poster: A snowHead
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Carried on my love affair with dendix this morning. At my last lesson I was told that I was sitting too far back so i went along today to practise and sort it out! Seems to me that I start off in a nice position and then when I rise up instead of standing forward onto the balls of my feet I stand kinda back on to my heels and I never really recover from this cos as I sink back down I stay sitting back. Does this sound feasible? I've tried to stop doing it without much success but I suppose realising I'm doing it is something.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Hands forwards.
Or, boots too stiff?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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ickabodblue, this usually starts from fear to some degree, or a misinterpretation of the instruction about extending - however it was put. It may help to think that you're starting to dive into a swimming pool as you extend. Think about that movement, then imagine that the boots stop you actually finishing off the dive. It is exactly the same movement. If you can't swim we'll have to think of something else.
You can't just fix it - it takes a good while and lots of exercises - sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but this is the reality - it's a basic fault. Were you taken onto runs you felt were a bit steep at any time??
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| easiski wrote: |
| It may help to think that you're starting to dive into a swimming pool as you extend. Think about that movement, then imagine that the boots stop you actually finishing off the dive. It is exactly the same movement. |
....hold that thought for my PSB lesson 
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easiski, I've always been a bit of a coward 
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| easiski wrote: |
| and then try to do it on the slope. :D |
Aiming which way ? :nice:
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easiski, I think I luv you!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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ickabodblue, there's a queue.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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ickabodblue, 3 things to think while training to get forward:
1) Stand tall (keep butt and shoulders high) the entire turn, and while moving from turn to turn.
2) keep your ankles flexed forward
3) keep constant shin contact/pressure on the front of the boot.
Then practice, practice, practice (on easy terrain) ,,, till you're doing all three consistently well, and it feels second nature. Till forward feels a safe and pleasant place to be.
easiski, I like your take on courage.
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just back from this mornings little slip around. Easiski inadvertantly stumbled on a really good analogy for me since back in the dark ages I was a competitive swimmer so I am really comfortable with the diving bit. It worked really well for me, not an ah-ha moment cos I have to concentrate on it for every turn but before, even though I was trying not to lean back, I was still doing it. So... It will take time but I am now confident that I will get there. Thanks once again easiski! 
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You know it makes sense.
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| ickabodblue wrote: |
| I have to concentrate on it for every turn but before, even though I was trying not to lean back, I was still doing it. |
If you can feel that you are doing it that's a good sign. When practicing it's a good idea to concentrate on what to do right, rather than what NOT to do.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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ickabodblue, have you heard about skiing 'skeletally'? It's where your skeleton supports your mass, rather than your muscles such as your quads.
Therefore, if you ski skeletally, you don't get thigh-burn from sitting back too far.
To find a good position, while you're standing on your skis, shift your mass back (while in a z-shaped skiing position). Then, shift your weight forwards until you feel the tightness moving away from from your quad muscles.
If you get used to that feeling of re-centreing on your skis, you'll find a way to get your weight forward.
It's just a different way of addressing the same problem as the others have mentioned. 
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Poster: A snowHead
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ickabodblue, my personal exercise if I feel I am not centered on the skis is to ski with my boots loose or even comletely undone. This is a masochistic exercise but gets me balanced. I try easy turns first and keep within my percieved ability, plastic is a nice uniform surface. Keep it simple whilst finding the balance.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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My instructor in Slovenia this year used the same diving analogy as easiski, and I found it really helpfull. The next thing he got us doing was pole plants which I also liked having never used my poles before I've got to admit though I started off using pole plants when skiing on my own but eventually stopped as no one else used them and I felt a bit daft. the instructor liked to differentiate between what he called classic skiing and carving, he said there are lots of situations where you can't carve and so you need to learn classic skiing for these situations and in all of them you should be using a pole plant. What does everyone else think of this??
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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lynseyf,
If the terrain is such that you can just get into a position and glide down then you will not need a plant....
for me, it depends how much help I need to get up off the skis to turn them... I might use it as a trigger for other movemenst or I might even weight onto it...
Generally, you'd use the pole to set in motion a few moves on more testing terrain so I can see what that instructor is saying.
Stylistically, you can't plant the pole from the back seat......as the pole plant will be too near the inside of the turn and useless anyway..
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