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So, I've got brand new walking boots - its been about 12 years since I last had a new pair and then had no-one to ask so just wore them.
These are all leather uppers with an eVent lining (some fancy breathable stuff I think) - Karrimor KSB 300 Skye boots. Will they have been factory proofed for waterproofness and be all ready to go out in the mud and rain or should I treat them myself with some dubbin or similar before using them in anger? Also, given that they are leather which can be a sod to get dry would my new ski boot drier be a good thing to use on them if they get wet or would that dry them too quickly and make them stiff.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I've also got leather walking boots, but checking the spec of mine (Brasher - to whom I am devotedly brand-loyal) against yours, I notice that, as well as having a waterproof lining, the leather of mine is described as being water-resistant, whereas the spec for yours only mentions the lining as being waterproof. I'd be inclined to ask Karrimor what's best to do. I didn't treat mine at all when they were new, but I clean them now with Brasher Conditioning Polish, "re-proofs and conditions leather" it says on the tin and that it is "designed for use on leather footwear with breathable membrane linings." My boots have had a good deal of use by now and they remain totally waterproof - they've been sorely tested in the last couple of months and I always use gallons of very hot water to clean the mud off. So I guess that polish is good stuff.
My boots dry extremely quickly and I've never needed to apply direct heat (which I can't help thinking is not a good idea anyway). But again, perhaps that's because the leather is "water-resistant."
Hope this helps.
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I've tended to use the Nikwax wax on my leather boots - it doesn't soften them and takes a little finger pressure to melt into the surface. My old Scarpa hiking boots are now in approx their 17th year and still going strong.
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Megamum, my old scarpa leather boots are also doing well in their 13th year, having been 'dubbined' regularly. I have recently bought a new pair (this time gortex type material) only as they have been pinched by my eldest.
One thing I would not recommend doing is using your boot driers as the leather won't like this! Last season I bought some dry zone packs which are only about £20, don't require power and can be regenerated if necessary in the microwave. They have been FAB for everything from ski boots to rugby boots. Will look up web address and get back to you.......
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My leather walking boots I keep waxed - although I don't often use them, they're for serious walking/trekking! (Which I don't do as much as I'd like to these days  ). I should think they're from before the time of fancy breathable liners etc, so I don't know if waxing the outers affects the breathability of the inners.
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Megamum, One word... Nikwax 
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Megamum, They will be Factory treated. No, don't dry them without conditioning the leather first (Nikwax Conditioner for leather).
Even though you have bought a leather boot with 'Event' you will need to treat the leather regularly( I'd recommend a trip to the Zoo or a fancy resturant) to keep it supple and advoid it cracking. Please use Nikwax in all cases, whatever you need, they have a product. Ensure when appling Nikwax, the leather is wet/moist.
A fun thing to do with Nikwax, is to wash your guests towels in a product called TX Direct, it waterproofs stuff, then tumble dry those towels and sit back and watch the fun.
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Hurtle, I hope your boots are well worn in for Nepal  Have you been getting much training in?
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Hurtle, Have followed the link - yes, it does specifically mention the eVent lining doesn't it? It might be a better product to go for. I also note that again it suggests applying to wet/damp leather - I'm glad I'm not alone in being surprised at that notion.
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Just to highjack this thread on something boot related ......
Planning to go walking for a few days across some mountain peaks (including some glacier work). Last time I went with stiff boots (La Sportiva Nepal Top) and crampons (Grivel G12) which were hell on the way in (walking like Robo-cop) but useful once on the rocks and glaciers. I will be carrying a pack in the region of 20-25 kg.
So do I .....
1) Take two pairs of boots using my current non-crampon summer (soft) walking boots on the approach and the stiffer boots once higher up.
or
2) Buy a new pair of not so stiff winter walking boots and semi-stiff crampons?
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You know it makes sense.
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DB Buy a pair of Scarpa Triolet/La Sportive Trango 's' Evo. the later wears badly(duration.).
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DB, Be sure that anything lighter (especially crampons !) are up to the job. I've had one fall apart on me (coming down Pollux).... not funny. So for me it's strength first
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Poster: A snowHead
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DB, The G12 will go straight on your Triolet!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| SMALLZOOKEEPER wrote: |
| DB Buy a pair of Scarpa Triolet/La Sportive Trango 's' Evo. the later wears badly(duration.). |
I have a La Sportiva foot and not a scarpa. Will Grivel G12 New-Matic crampons fit the trangos?
There appear to be various models of the trango do you mean the extreme version?
http://www.lasportiva.com/catalogue/catalogo.php?cat=11&cod3=274&Language=EN
Last edited by Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person on Thu 23-08-07 15:19; edited 1 time in total
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DB, I refer the Honerable gentleman to my previous reply.
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I refer the Honerable gentleman to my previous reply which I have now edited.
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Scarpa,
Mine are the same..but I doubt they have had the wear of yours....
Absolutley bombproof...
Strangely enough I have replaced them..??? and I should sell them...
I will have clear out soon, jackets, trews packs etc etc
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Hurtle, I also like the Bresher boot but find that the soles become smooth rather quickly and acquire the properties of Teflon.
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DB, Firstly Scarpa have more lasts shapes than any other walking boot maker on the market, not to have a Scarpa foot is like saying i don't fit into a car. I tried a Ford once. You follow? The La Sportiva i refered you to, is the Trango 'S' Evo GTX, 1 click down from the Trango Extreme Evo light Gtx. The Extreme, you speak of, is the same shape has a full length PU Midsole and is insulated by Gore Tex Duratherm. The Trango 'S' has a slightly softer Midsole(still compatable with your G12's) and is not insulated but lined with Gore Tex sierra. The Trango Extreme is a fantastic shoe(not the same last as any of the Nepals) and is perfect for mixed vertical ascents at altitude. The Trango 'S' is what i call an 'Off-Piste' walking boot, for the more adventurous, whom may on the odd occasion cross the glacier or some Nevé.
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cathy,
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I hope your boots are well worn in for Nepal |
Oh yes, I've had my Brasher boots for a few years now, they are super-comfortable. They don't actually need breaking in, though I had a slightly embarrassing experience when I bought the present pair. I decided to wear them around the house for a bit, just in case they had some blister points; good idea you might say, save that I have the habit of doing my housework in my nightie - not so good when the postman rings the doorbell and I am attired in said nightie and walking boots. 
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Have you been getting much training in?
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I've not done much training, just usual gym stuff (including a thing that looks like a cross-trainer, but is at a steepish incline) plus a recent week in the Lakes (including shinning up Haystacks) a day or two in the Peak District, and I've a couple of days walking in Northumberland planned for next weekend. My trek isn't gnarly, never higher than 4,000 m. The following words in the brochure attracted me to this holiday in the first place: "first time trek, no special levels of fitness required."
Frosty the Snowman,
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I also like the Bresher boot but find that the soles become smooth rather quickly and acquire the properties of Teflon
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You can in fact have them re-soled, but my first pair lasted for yonks. How can I put this tactfully...do you think they could be carrying a tad more weight in your case? (I am a midget, albeit a well-padded one  )
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| SMALLZOOKEEPER wrote: |
| what i call an 'Off-Piste' walking boot, for the more adventurous, whom may on the odd occasion cross the glacier or some Nevé. |
Visions of a Scarpa Alp here; what are your minimums for this category?
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comprex, Ahh, put clipping those G12 on and off in the bat of an eyelid?
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SMALLZOOKEEPER, fair enough, everything else is comfort and grams...
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