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Mt Blanc claims "stubborn and stupid" Brit.

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StÈphane Bozon, captain of the high mountain police in the French Alpine resort of Chamonix, said: "The group decided on this climb without taking into account the poor weather forecasts. This is stubbornness and stupidity.


The four victims, who had set out poorly equipped to deal with adverse conditions, died of cold and exhaustion after enduring a night on the mountain exposed to 75mph winds, heavy snowfall and temperatures of minus 15C. Full story


Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Thu 26-07-07 16:08; edited 3 times in total
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I assume StÈphane Bozon is related to Charles Bozon after whom the black run at the Brevent is named.

"Charles Bozon

Named “Charlot” by his alpine ski team colleagues ...

He won several Olympic medals during his alpine ski racing career: silver in Cortina d’Ampezzo in 1956, bronze and silver in Squaw Valley in 1960.

2 years later in 1962, he became world ski champion as he raced in extremely stormy conditions at home in Les Bossons, a few steps away from the family household, in the Chamonix valley.

“Charlot” took part in an impressive rescue operation on the West face of Blaitière, one of the sheer granite faces over-looking Chamonix.

He died in 1964, during a tragic accident on Aiguille Verte. Mountaineering claimed the lives of his own father Anatole and his nephew Richard, who both disappeared in avalanches on guiding duty, in 1936 and 1995. "
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Slightly different angle and more detail from The Times

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article2141271.ece


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And if the report is accurate then Mr Bozon is correct.
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Nickski, I agree, if correct the reports open a lot of questions about the parties actions. The thread title's wrong though as there was only one Brit involved.
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Very sad; sure, they were stupid, but it's still sad. At least none of the rescuers died trying to reach them. I heard a story when in France last week about a party, some years ago, who (it transpired after the event) had deliberately got themselves stuck up in the mountains somewhere, to sell their stories to the press - Paris Match. A rescuer did die on that occasion, and when the authorities became suspicious there was a successful court case against the climbing party and, I think, the magazine. The story was told me in French and I probably missed some vital element. Does anyone know about this incident? The group was apparently stuck for some days, and on the TV news each night as rescuers tried to get to them in appalling conditions.
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The PGHM was created 1958 after an accident in 1956 when no one was able to effect a rescue. Since then 46 members have died while carrying out rescues which unlike rescues from ski areas are free.


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pam w wrote:
Does anyone know about this incident?


Yes, your version might go down well in the Daily Mail but appears to be somewhat lost in translation.

http://pistehors.com/backcountry/wiki/Articles/Search-And-Rescue-Costs
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davidof, yes, I think the guy who told me the story was a bit prone to exageration - I heard a fair few tall stories and I don't think it was all down to my less than fluent French!
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pam w wrote:
davidof, yes, I think the guy who told me the story was a bit prone to exageration - I heard a fair few tall stories and I don't think it was all down to my less than fluent French!


There was a media storm about what happened but as with much in press a lot of it was incorrect. To recap, three men set out in good weather on a ski tour during the winter of 1999. The weather forecast was good but was wrong. They got trapped when a big storm closed in and survived 10 days in a snow cave. The CRS officer commanding the rescue said that the trio had "not committed any typical error"[1] and a police report after the incident absolved them from responsibility. The media, at first praising the three men for their fortitude then turned nasty when it turned out they had sold their story and photos to Paris-Match. No rescue worker was killed or injured during the operation although they carried out many search missions in very poor weather. A state prosecutor in the Savoie, caught up in the media frenzy, said he would have prosecuted the trio for manslaughter if anyone had been killed during the rescue but this, of course, was crazy talk.

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This info comes from a friend who carried out an investigation on mountain rescue for the French government. He spoke with the rescue workers involved in this mission and the above is a very small summary of his investigation into the incident.

[1] - The french he used was very particular and my translation may not be perfect but I take it he meant they hadn't ignored weather forecasts or set out poorly equipped.
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So did M. Bozon actually use the phrase "stubborn and stupid" or something which might be closer to naive and inappropriately focussed? I understand the education agenda in these soundbites and I think he would be qualified, if anyone to comment, but is it media sensationalism in the translation?
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The translation was reasonably accurate. Capt. Bozon said (my translation): "They were focussing on this mythical climb and they did not take into account the weather forecast from Meteo France. They should have made a U-turn. It was stubborness and stupidity. They are fully responsible."


I like the Independent's tips for surviving a night out on Mt Blanc "remember to take warm drinks".
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This is what Pascale, the mother of Morgane, the French victim had to say

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The men of the PGHM were fantastic, they tried everything to reach the group and risked their lives to save them. They were simply angry because it is very hard for them to bring so many dead kids of the mountain. I can never thank them enough, especially the guy who stayed on the phone with Morgane to the end.


Apparently the group were equipped with ice axes but the snow was too hard to dig a cave at that point. Exhausted they were unable to descend to the hut, 1 hour away under normal conditions. Two of the group were training for the "climbers" exam with the French Alpine Club and already had a numerous routes under their belts in France and elsewhere. In short experienced climbers who maybe made a mistake and paid a high price.
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