 Poster: A snowHead
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has anyone drove to the ADH, i am trying to pursuede my better half to let us drive, so i need to know all the pros and cons so i can show her its a good idea, any thought on costs not including ferry crossing 3 x Adults 1 x child in VW Golf.
cheers
jase 
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Mon 11-06-07 10:06; edited 1 time in total
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jase2472, There is much advice on snowHeads re Driving to the Alps. Have a play with the Forum Search facility at the top of the page. 
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jase2472, If you enter the route on viamichelin it tells you the route, mileage and toll fees. I'm driving there at Easter.
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I would drive toward ADH.
Then turn right at the bottom of the hill and go to LDA, instead.
ADH is a dreadful place.
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jase2472, You will make good time until you get to Macon when the time will drag somewhat. It is a case of so near yet so far....but once you get past Grenoble you are 90-120 mins away from ADH. The road up is the famous Tour Du France finishing climb and it has about 21 switchbacks. I thought the drive was fine and the car is still th best wasy to go, IMV, if you don't hang about and have a change of drivers to keep the car moving. 10 hrs from Calais at a decent pace and no long stops. Fuel, coffee and a roll should be the ticket and then that time is achievable, IMO.
ADH is on our list this year
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R32, jase2472, use the autoroute via Bourg-en-Bresse, as this avoids the Lyon by-pass, it is a much quieter road, goes past Lyon airport. (A39/A40/A432) . R32, I have great difficulty persuading those other from 'oop north' that driving is a feasible option.
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Helen Beaumont, ...R32, There's no need to avoid Lyon town centre between 2200 hrs and about 0600 (later on the weekend); in deed it is quicker! I've been avoiding it for years and using "Racade Est' or whatever it's called. but got persuaded a fortnight ago to give it another try .... it can be very fast ... just watch out for 'The Camera Signs' ...
jase2472, JT, has summed it up nicely , nice easy drive until Grenoble , and then it's a case of thinking ' an hour or two' and not what your Sat Nav says !!
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We drove to that area at Christmas, went on Friday(, traffic apparently busier Saturday) stayed overnight in Grenoble then an hour or so next day! Ferry great going, horrendous coming back 5 hour delay and people throwing up EVERYWHERE!! never again!! take the tunnel!!
Kids quiet all the way with portable dvd player and mp3's! would definately do it again!!
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Helen Beaumont, Yes that's the way we go.....and always stop off at the 'chicken stop' services (Bourg en Bresse), where the big metal chicken sculpture is, Heston Blumenthal the chef went there too!
jase2472, and.......always have a toilet stop just before Grenoble......as Agenterre says you may have a long wait!
We left last week after work and caught the Eurotunnel at midnight, drove until about 3am, had a powernap in the car and continued......roads completely dead . Probably not practical with kids though, but you could stop over in Calais or Reims on the way down.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Via Michelin also lists the speed camera locations on your route. But last week the one near Calais Eu terminal was missing but the sign was still there (the camera was there in April!) and a new one has appeared between Reims and Dijon.
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You know it makes sense.
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boredsurfin, yes ... so look out for the signs .. they are always accurate !!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I usually use Speedferries but am taking one of the larger vessels next Winter. With their boats being so small you can have some very rough crossings in the Winter. Went over in (I think) 2m waves in February which was close to the maximum they sail in. Should have been worried when we got on and there was a sick bag ready on every single seat 
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jase2472, Its a really easy drive - we normally do it in about 8/8.5 hours but that is without any significant stops. Don't think there is that much difference between the Bourg-en-Bresse or Macon-Lyon route, we tend to alternate to keep it interesting!! The new bypasses on the road through the valley should all be completed by next winter and that will improve the traffic flow no end. Coming up the bends is lots of fun!
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boredsurfin, Well .. we we still slowed down and a new record Calais to Cannes ( childish aren't I!! ) 
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Agenterre, We had a record trip coming back on Sunday ....until we hit the M25 which was being used as a car park 
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Never thought twice to drive to ADH myself.
Last Mar I drove to Sion of Switzerland, then Italian Cervinia, then French Serre Chevalier (to sample the Italian Milky Way) and stoped over at Bourg De O'sian just to ski ADH and L2A.
There are 21 hairpin bends to ADH and 10 at the L2A side, so have a set of snowchains just in case because it may be covered with snow on your way up or down.
While you are in ADH try to cross the road to visit L2A too.
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thanks everyone for the advice but we are now going to Andorra so any tips on driving there
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jase2472, don't.
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jase2472, Unfair to the kid ...I'm with Helen Beaumont, You're looking at 750-ish + miles from Calais .... 10 + hrs, c. €50 for tolls , circumnavigating Paris, not the best motorways in France (fog) . The Cost ? At a minimum , earache from the Better Half 
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jase2472,
Done it once and its just too far
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| jase2472 wrote: |
| thanks everyone for the advice but we are now going to Andorra so any tips on driving there |
Start in Barcelona or Toulouse.
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You know it makes sense.
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jase2472, OK, start in Lancashire, drive to an airport near where you live. Driving all the way to Andorra would not be pleasant IMHO.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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jase2472, It is 200 miles further than ADH e.g but then again Newcastle is 300 miles further than London
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Poster: A snowHead
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Frosty the Snowman, ... and worse roads and a worse journey ...imho, but then again now it's just 2 blokes and car over 3 days ..why not .. nice road trip ( in the summer!!)
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I recon on £450, for the Tunnel, fuel & tolls for a round trip. That's in a 3.0l Diesel with top box not sparing the horses.
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