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Discuss please. 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Kramer, Hmmmmm... a beginner I am then 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I'm sure there are skiers who can just about snow plough would be confident on a black run. Confidence on skis isn't gained from experience, but the [misguided] belief that the two hours of lessons you had on the rugs at Matson is enough.
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Definitely a beginner. I fall with enormous style and grace though - does that count for anything?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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which one is the hardest out of blue red and black then? 
IMO most blacks can't be used properly because they are clogged up with people spazzing out at the pole colors.
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Is it icy or heavy snow or 'perfect' prepared piste?
Daft question reallly. Beginners are beginning. By definition, first week skiers.
So, replace beginner by intermediate and limit the definition to groomed black runs and you may be close.
Then advanced skiers would be trying to do the run confidently in all conditions and expert those who achieve this 'holy grail'?
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I'd call that an intermediate.
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True.
Because black runs are slightly harder reds only marked black to give beginners a sense of progress.
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I know my place
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I still claim we should delete the word intermediate from the dictionary.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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who the hell cares....
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Possibly everyone could just stop this obsessive pigeonholing. Who cares?
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You know it makes sense.
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and the definition of age is when half way down a black you stop for a breather and both daughters are at the bottom looking up with that teenage 'Oh Dad' look 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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Kel, advanced beginner.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Confidence is the feeling I get before I understand the problem.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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My confidence can ski a black confidently...........................
.................my body ain't so sure
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What's a 'Black Run'? 
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Spyderman, I think you and I would call it a Black Piste, I'll show you some in April
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boredsurfin, Can you see some from the terrace of you Château then?
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Kramer, Once you can ski a "black" run with confidence, then you're a "beginner".
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Nice trolling. As has been discussed ad naseum run gradings are almost meaningless anyway and even the concept of what is a run, how does it differ from a piste etc. I'd say if your original hypothesis refers to a groomer in good condition/visibility then its a decent enough hypothesis. If it means absolute any black e.g. a double black chute denoted only by a bit of wood nailed to a trees in rocky terrain, fog and mashed potato snow then clearly there is a very wide spectrum for beginner.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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andy, Don't do that, please!.............I was rather chuffed recently to be described as a nervous intermediate - I felt like I'd finally made some progress beyond beginner status. 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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You know it makes sense.
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Arno, Looks sort of Grey to me. 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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What's a PISTE?
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Poster: A snowHead
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SMALLZOOKEEPER, What Fencers use 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I can ski a black run confidently - it's the same as a red run / blue run - just a bit steeper. Once you have the right technique on an easy slope you should be able to take it to a hard slope.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Kramer wrote: |
| Unless you can down ten black sambucas with confidence and then ski one piste of any description without dying, you're a beginner. |
There. I fixed your post for you.
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Arno, not sure what it is but it looks FUN 
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If you ski off-piste and stay within a "short skiing distance to the marked piste"............................ you're a beginner
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| Unless you can ski a black run with confidence, you are a beginner! |
Not much to discuss: that's a majority of skiers then.
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Leisse in the morning - No probs
Epaule du Charvet in the afternoon - Total beginner 
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