 Poster: A snowHead
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Well, the boots arrived today from Ski-Bilek. Worked out £176 all-in. And they're spot on. I'm a UK size 10 which is between 28.5 and 29 mondopoint. I ordered 28.5 boots which are marked as UK size 9.5, but then read on Epic that they size up big so I started to panic before they arrived.
Well, without the liner, I can fit just under 2 fingers down the back of the boot with toes touching the front which seems pretty much spot on for me. My 27.5 Salomon XWave 9s barely enable me to fit one finger down the back and never ceased to squash my toes - I can't for the life of me work out why I ended up with the X-Wave 9s in such a small size.
I think some of the "sizing up big" of the Diablo Magma might be a result of the good amount of space available in the forefoot area. I've got fairly wide feet and this suits me well. For someone with narrow feet then I suspect they would be swimming in the correct length boot. These are the first boots I've put on, in my correct size, where the fit with the forefoot catches on the first position is just right, rather than slightly too tight. So I've got room to tighten them without having to suffer the weeks of pain that my XWave 9s gave me before the liners packed out a bit. Now I need to find some snow after 17 April (too busy till then)!
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Fri 9-03-07 18:37; edited 1 time in total
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SMALLZOOKEEPER, out of interest, is 98mm the width acorss the inside of the forefoot area, or does it mean something else? ALways wanted to know that.
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| SMALLZOOKEEPER wrote: |
98mm is the width 1st-5th Metatarsal in size 26.5. Making a 28.5, 106mm internally. The boot is a medium volume shell with a medium midfoot-instep area. Genuine good luck mate, i reckon with a good footbed, correct liner choice, i'd have got you in a 27.5 but thats just cos i'm like that.   |
Merci bien monsieur, je comprend. I measured my foot from outside of 1st metatarsal to 5th metatarsal and I'm 110mm, and the boots feel just right across there. This is where I had a problem in the X-Wave 9s in 27.5 - even when the liners packed right out they were still too tight across that point which caused the foot to cramp up and made the boot hard to remove, and even harder to refit the following morning. Any idea what the sixe of the X-Wave 9 is across there?
Also, with the Magma in 28.5 I can get about one and a half of my slender fingers down the back between heel and shell. I guess with the 27.5 then it would be less than a finger, which is the same as on my X-Wave 9s, but I honestly felt this uncomfortably tight with toes hammering the end unless I flexed the boot really hard. I've got a condition called alopecia universalis - same as Gail Porter and Duncan Goodhew - and one of the problems with this is that it has knackered my toe nails (especially the big ones) making anything tight over the ends extremely painful. This certainly didn't help from the comfort point of view in the 27.5.
You're right, I probably could be shoehorned into a 27.5, but I don't think comfortably, and I don't think I would have been able to justify the cost to MrsPeteMillis either! I think I've found a boot for me that hits the spot - but watch out here for future posts if I start complaining that they're falling off my feet!
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petemillis, X-Wave, 101mm 1st - 5th. 105mm size 27.5.
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SMALLZOOKEEPER, you're suggesting that the X-Waves are wider in the forefoot area than the Tecnica boots - yes?
In that case, how do the Magmas compare to the Magnesiums? I ask 'cos I've used X-Wave 8s for 5 years and had a nightmare at first. In the end they were stretched 5 times before they fitted my wide forefoot (95 mm unweighted, 103mm weighted, 26.5 Mondo). The guys at Precision in Val d'Isere told me I was sold a pup and should have put into Tecnica or Head boots.
I tried a pair of 26 Mondo Magnesiums a couple of years ago and apart from being just too short, they were perfect straight out of the box. Now that I'm looking to 'upgrade' I was looking at something at the top of the Tecnica range e.g. Magma or Magnesium
Any thoughts?
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NickB, We have Magma in Hot Form. The liner can make the forefoot width of boots confusing. There were many problems with X-Wave due to coller alignment. We stretched them sometimes beyond recognition, when a simple inversion of the Lateral Canting rivet was all that was needed.
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SMALLZOOKEEPER, I'm pleased to be able to confirm that I have today tried on the Diablo Magma in 27.5 - on the cork, 6mm behind my heel. With the liner in it fits snug - as you predicted, better fit than the 28.5. Also, it fits much more comfortably than the XWave9 - the main differenence seems to be that the Tecnica has a squarer across the front toe box which suits my foot better than the Salomon.
I've order the 27.5 Magma, and will now be having to flog the 28.5.....oh well, I should get the cost back I hope.
Brand new unworn Diablo Magma boots in 28.5 anyone?
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petemillis, I would have been interested until SZK put me into 27.5 Dalbellos, which fitted me slightly better than the Diablo.
(all my old boots were 28.5)
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| petemillis wrote: |
| ......Brand new unworn Diablo Magma boots in 28.5 anyone? |
If only there were in 27 
BTW, the thing I like about my Diablo Fire's (apart from being orange) is the roomy toe box yet a snug fit everywhere else.
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| Wear The Fox Hat wrote: |
petemillis, I would have been interested until SZK put me into 27.5 Dalbellos, which fitted me slightly better than the Diablo.
(all my old boots were 28.5) |
Damn that SZK! Ne'er mind - I'll pop them into the "for sale" section then ebay as a last resort, although I might make a couple of quid no them if I put them on ebay.....
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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petemillis, I take it you'll be making a small donation to the SH fund. 
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Poster: A snowHead
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| SMALLZOOKEEPER wrote: |
| petemillis, I take it you'll be making a small donation to the SH fund. |
I shall indeed be paying some munge to upgrade from snowHead to something bigger! And I should like to take this opportunity to thank your help.
I still have no regrets about buying from Ski-Bilek - as I now have 2 pairs of boots for not much more than the price of one pair. Just need to shift one pair then I'm back to proper fitting half price boots!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, I'm sitting here in my 27.5 Diablo Magmas. Much snugger than the 28.5s - feel good - and none of that pressue across the outside toes that made the 27.5 XWave 9 problematic for me. I've had these for an hour now - no problems at all with making cups of tea so they should do me well.
Anyone off to XScape at any point over the coming weeks?
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Yeah, I know I should have bought from a local shop and sat down with a boot fitter, but for one, I thought "what the hell", and after the discomfort of my X-Wavw 9s that were just too small, something pleasant to wear is nice (especially at my age!)
would buy off fleabay after reading these threads. . . 