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i've just re-waxed my skis after a week in Slovenia. I'm at the stage where the next bit is scraping off the excess & polishing them with a brush, which is what i usually do. However, at that point i'm wondering... do i really need to do this. I'm not a racer so i don't wax my skis for max performance, but to protect the bases. I'm leaving for Canada next week & i was thinking if i left the wax as is, first it would help protect the bases in transport, & second it would soon wear down once i'd done a few runs.. (i know they might be a bit sticky at the start..)

any comments?

Oh.. & talking about transport of skis, i bought a KIS ski case off ebay a couple of years back. I thought i'd use it on this next trip rather than the soft case i normally use. however, my skis (Metron B5's) won't fit it.. in fact, i can't even get one in! So.. i guess i'll just keep this case for my fishing rods.. but.. do KIS do a bigger case for more modern skis. And does anyone do a soft case that will take skis, boots & all the rest of your stuff as i'm fed up with lugging 3 bags round the airports!
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riverwhy, On the basis that I have only been doing my own ski maint for the last 30+ years and have done a little experimenting I doubt you will notice any real difference unless you have the misfortune to find really cold dry snow Sad . If you really want to why not just throw your plastic scraper in the bottom of the bag?
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riverwhy, you own superb performing skis like B5's & you can't be @rsed to spend another 10 minutes to scrape & brush them rolling eyes. I'd sell them now & buy some Rossi B2's wink.

Get a pair of those velcro ski ties that have the padding strip that seperates the ski bases during transit to prevent rubbing.

There's loads of ski bag options of the market but have you considered sliding off your toe & heel pieces & taking them in your carry-on bag? You should then both skis in your bag without & it keeps your bindings away from the baggage handlers. I do this & it works a treat, especially as I can then get two pairs of skis in the ski bag weight limit with just one pair of bindings. Both skis have Neox 412's off course.
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riverwhy, There you are I told you Laughing
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hi spyderjon.. yeah.. they are good skis aren't they.. just had my first real blast on them in slovenia - they are quick! I love 'em... but i don't much care for carrying them!! wink
But it's not that i can't be arsed - just wondered really if it would make much difference leaving the wax on once i'd skiied for an hour.
Good suggestion to take the bindings off.. might well do that in future.. thanks
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riverwhy, I'd most definately scrape the bases as you'd be leaving a lot of wax on the base. I've never tried skiing on an unbrushed base so I've no idea how long it'll take for the wax to clear out of the structure. However 3 passes with a brass bursh is all you need.
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spyderjon.. done.. btw before waxing do you use fluid to remove the old wax after the first scrape? i read somewhere that the fluid can damage the bases. i have a can of holmenkol wax remover but don't use it every time i re-wax. Oh.. & having teenage sons i have draws of odd socks in the house & i find one slipped over the top & one over the bottom of the ski before putting them together & banding them makes a pretty good protector where the skis touch..
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riverwhy, wax remover does tend to dry out the bases so I only use it for cleaning damaged areas prior to repairs. For base cleaning I prefer to do a hot scrape clean with a soft wax. A ‘hot scrape’ is when the molten wax is immediately scraped off after being ironed in to the ski to pull out the dirt held within the base. You’ll notice the black dirt smears in the scraped wax. If the base is very dirty then this can be repeated until the wax scrapes clean. Wax remover's a must for cleaning scapers etc.

petemillis will be impressed with your low cost tip with the socks wink


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riverwhy, now I know what to do with all those odd socks!! Very Happy
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spyderjon, You mention 'a soft wax'. Looking at waxes available, they tend to be advertised as being suitable for a particular temperature range. This might sound like a silly question but can you tell me which is softer....wax suitable for very cold conditions or wax suitable for warmer (less cold) conditions?
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hellfiresliding, Wax suitable for warm conditions is soft & usually yellow. It melts at a low temp, approx 65C-80C. It's also ideal for doing hot scrape cleans & for multiple base prepping coats as it penetrates so well.

Wax for v.cold conditions is very hard & usually blue in colour. It has to be applied with a very hot iron (which is were domestic irons struggle) as it melts at approx 120C-150C. Most makers recommend that it's scraped off whilst still slightly warm as it goes rock 'ard when fully cooled & you'd new a chisel to get it off!

For correct wax selection you need to know snow temperatures etc so for us flatlanders who are waxing in the UK it's best to use a universal wax with a wide operating temperature range - IMO the best being Dominator Zoom uni wax although the Holmenkol uni wax is pretty good too.
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