 Poster: A snowHead
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The number of my friends who are carrying an airbag is increasing at a phenomenal rate. However, I know that some people are sceptical of their worth.
A friend of a friend survived an avalanche yesterday, having bought an ABS the day before and having deployed it. One of his two other companions was killed (not wearing a bag).
However there is an argument that carrying ABS might make people complacent. Or folks will "freeze" and not pull the handle, or that deploying in a rocky area increases the chance of being swept into rocks.
What does the panel think?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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B00thy,
Soon I think some guides offices will not take clients without one..which atm means more rental business.
I would hope that doesn't drive the schools use of them...
All your other points are valid...I'd say...so am not sure what to think...
My friend brought one a few weeks ago but can't travel on a plane with it atm... which means we go by car
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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JT, you can travel with the bag but you can not take the cannister (and if the handle is charged, the handle either) because of the compressed gas.
So unless you can store your bag in a resort to which you visit regularly or are doing a season, it is a pain
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B00thy,
Sorry to hear that yet another has perished. Where was the avalanche?
I'd rather be on the surface than burried after hitting rocks so that I get taken to the hospital quicker. Yes some people have failed to pull the cord but the survival rate of those that have pulled it is very high. Nothing gurantees you will survive an avalanche but the stats (albeit from the ABS bag manufacturer) suggest an ABS bag will greatly improve your chances.
http://www.abssystem.com/
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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DB, Kaltenburg, on the Albona to Langen route. Dirk, who was caught but survived, suffered a broken leg.
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Funny, you cant take it on a plane because of the charged gas bottle but there is a high pressure bottle beneath evey seat attached to a life jacket. Rules is rules
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Soon I think some guides offices will not take clients without one
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already happened with the guides I used in Engelberg - ABS is compulsory (along with bleep, shovel, probe of course)
J
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| jedster wrote: |
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Soon I think some guides offices will not take clients without one
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already happened with the guides I used in Engelberg - ABS is compulsory (along with bleep, shovel, probe of course)
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Lots of guided groups with them in Andermatt too plus individuals with much older generation clunky looking ones (box frame). Suspect it will be a Germanic/Scandi country led trend with the French last to adopt.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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fatbob,
Where are you now..Andermatt...? how did you get on?
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However the approval of the operator is required. I can see that one going down well with Stelios! 
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You know it makes sense.
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fatbob,
Where are you now..Andermatt...? how did you get on? |
No UK. Andermatt was good but didn't appear to have had a lot of extra snow in the 2 week gap between visits so we actually went back to Engelberg again and skied off Jochstock most of hte time. A Canadian instructor said that Steinberg was still skiable but not good so we didn't bother. Didn't see anyone on the Laub.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| JT wrote: |
fatbob,
Where are you now..Andermatt...? how did you get on? |
No UK. Andermatt was good but didn't appear to have had a lot of extra snow in the 2 week gap between visits so we actually went back to Engelberg again and skied off Jochstock most of hte time. A Canadian instructor said that Steinberg was still skiable but not good so we didn't bother. Didn't see anyone on the Laub. |
someone I know set off what sounds like a massive avalanche on the Laub - no-one hurt though
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Poster: A snowHead
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