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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I'm glad I generally do as I had two fraudulent debits for US online shops (no not that kind) - one for jewelery and one for ties (!) on my January statement. New cards and account issued (irritating as I have to learn a new number now).
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Virgin got in contact with me over a £20 pay as you go phone bill.
A small amount, but still not mine. Card cancelled and replaced. Nice to know they care 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Kruisler, I have heard that card cloning is more frequent on mainland Europe. 
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Card was stopped once for "suspected fraudulent activities". All transactions were genuine, but maybe someone put it thru manually as card present, when it clearly wasn't. In 1 day I had 3 US mailorder transactions, and Hotel+Esso station as genuine card present.
Sort of related... What concerns me are (mainly) business hotels in mainland EU. It is the norm to hand over passport at check in and collect later (often they photocopy the details page, which for the new chip passports contains part of the key to decrypt the chip). Then they want my home address and signature on the checkin form. And 99% of people pay by credit card. Sod that... I pay cash, put a false address, and never ever sign with my normal signature.
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In Costa Rica two years ago, we went on a boat trip for 2 weeks, then had a car hired to be delivered to the port for us to go off into the cloud forest for a few days. Had our credit card manually swiped by the guys delivering the car. On getting home to our credit card statement there were some large payments (we think they bought PSPs) and one for about £2  totalling around £900 that were spent in some department stores / electonic stores. We could prove that we were on the top of a mountain miles and hours from anywhere - sent them a few maps too. Absolutely no problems with my credit card issuer (GM Card).
You never hear the outcome, but it would have been nice to know who scammed the card, so you can be more aware in similar circumstances.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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I've had a few phone calls from my credit card company (never had the card stopped, they call me first) - once recently I had paid my hotel bill in Strasbourg, booked a hotel in Vermont and filled my car with petrol in Surrey, all of which had been processed within the space of a couple of hours. One quick phone call from them and it was all sorted.
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| What concerns me are (mainly) business hotels in mainland EU. It is the norm to hand over passport at check in and collect later |
What business hotels do that? (I'm pleased to say I haven't stayed in one like that yet)
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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boredsurfin, where would the deception come in, assuming that you pay for everything? My address is pretty unlikely to have any effect on the price or whether the goods and services would have been offered to me. Wouldn't the falsification have to be germane to the contract to be actionable? Again, it's very unlikely that my address (or my name for that matter) would affect the terms of the contract.
Do the (Hotel Records) Order 1972 and the The Hotel Proprietors Act (1956) oblige the guest to give a correct name and address, or merely oblige the proprietor to ask for keep a record of them? What is my correct name, anyway? Anything I choose to call myself, I'd have said.
I usually put my office address, which is as much my address as my home address.
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You know it makes sense.
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boredsurfin, it's the Italian ones that concern me most. UK never asks me for passport (presumably assuming I'm UK resident), and they'll get cash too, not CC.
richmond, office address is good idea actually, esp. if on business. A true legal point of contact, totally free of any ID theft.
Wear The Fox Hat, most smaller Italian ones I've stayed at recently. I think they copy passport details, make you sign the reg. form, and they fill in the details after to save you the effort. The words "sod" and "that" spring to mind.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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andy, ah. I haven't stayed in Italy on business. Only Belgium, France and Germany.
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Poster: A snowHead
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andy, it's not only Italian hotels even apartment owners have a special guest registration form and require you to fill in your passport number.
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brian
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Rather unfortunately my cc company decided to phone my wife about a "possibly fraudulent" purchase of a pair of recons before I'd had the chance to explain what a great deal they were 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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brian, 
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brian, what's a recon? A reconditioned something presumably, but what?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Recently, due to a sudden rush of blood to the head, our cc was used a lot. No queries, no phone calls, nothing. Transcations were recorded on the same day in three different locations, hundreds of miles apart. The only transaction that was refused was a small one in French supermarket made using our French debit card.
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I had something similar, drove into Italy from Austria on our way home filled up within a few km, then several months later because my wife was able to claim some expenses we kept all receipts. Someone used the card within 1/2 an hour down in the south of italy. Barclycard agreed that Toyota Land cruisers can't travel that fast! Canceled the card and sent a new one free of charge. But they did quible for a while saying that the chit had been signed.
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afcbtim, Without implying any complicity on the part of the hotel you stayed at was it the Breuil Hotel ?
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Between October and January I had three of my credit / debit cards used fraudulently.
In the first instance they bought four lots of £20 Virgin mobile top-ups with the card before the credit card company spotted the transactions and phoned me. That card was cancelled and reissued under a new number.
Less than a week after receiving and using my replacement card it was used to buy a one way ticket to Havana at Christmas - at a cost of over £1,000. The credit card company didn't spot that one - I did. There was a little more quibbling, but fortunately the online company who sold the ticket recognised it as fraud almost instantly. Card, once again, cancelled and reissued under a new number.
Two weeks after getting to Morzine one of my UK debit cards stopped working. Somone had tried to buy £875 of perfume on Oxford Street - which had been spotted and stopped. The card was cancelled.
On each occassion I've been nothing but impressed at the ability of the credit card companies to spot behaviour outside of a spending pattern. But the Havana flight does reinforce the fact that the only time I spend "big money" it's on travel - and so wasn't really outside of my spending pattern.
In the first two cases I'm pretty sure that the details were taken off the card whilst it was being held for a tab. I often need to do that for work, but won't be doing that again.
In the latter case I'm lost for an explanation because I avoid using any debit card online or over the phone.
Check those statements.
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But the Havana flight does reinforce the fact that the only time I spend "big money" it's on travel - and so wasn't really outside of my spending pattern.
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But maybe you generally plan to come back PhillipStanton? A one way ticket to Havana, unless bought by a Cuban, would possibly get you refused by immigration?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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But the Havana flight does reinforce the fact that the only time I spend "big money" it's on travel - and so wasn't really outside of my spending pattern.
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But maybe you generally plan to come back PhillipStanton? A one way ticket to Havana, unless bought by a Cuban, would possibly get you refused by immigration? |
A good point pam w - I never asked. I was just glad that I wan't up for £1,000!
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afcbtim, afcbtim, a few, long story, I would imagine this is individual staff rather than the business itself, I had a great week skiing, if a little windy (on the slopes you lot, don't go there) marred only by a dispute with the hotel which to be honest was more related to one or two particular staff who had been there for many years, the dispute remains unresolved. The hotel that ryhmes with Cruel has a sister hotel (possibly two) and they share staff sometimes..
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FAQ
Cheeky bar stewards didn't even have the decency to wait until I got home!
We have cancelled your card and new ones are on their way to yo. Dont worry no charges have reached your statement. Thank you."
