 Poster: A snowHead
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My local friendly ski shop is trying to sell me a pair of Atomic Metron 9 puls. They are this years model and are on sale at £249 including bindings.
I am male, 180cm tall, 75-80Kg and would class myself as an intermediate skier (honest)
Having read some reviews about Metron 9s, they would appear to be too advanced for me although I could grow into them (?) and I only ever ski on-piste. These skis are seemingly 100% on-piste and 100% powder....so they could if I wanted to progress onto the powdery stuff
Having rented ski previously and only every skied on Salomons and Rossis, I'm a bit unsure about Atomics and unfortunately don't have an opportunity to try demo them.
I had been looking at buying (online as my local shops don't stock them) Rossi Zenith Z1s or Z3s; Salomon X-Wing 4s or 6s which seem more suited to by ability and have been reviewed as "comfortable and stable". The Metron B9s have been reviewed as being a bit "twitchy" and not as relaxing to ski on.
Regardless, if any of these skis are OK for me what size should go for? Opinion says that I should ski these shorther but not too short, so I'm stuck between a 164 and a 170 (I have been advised 164 for the Metrons).
Cheers
Rik
BTW: I'm looking to buy a set of skis this year as my 8 year son has taken up skiing lessons this year and has got the bug (level 4/5 - progressing onto parallel turns). Since I can drive to 3 of the Scottish "Resorts" in 1-2 hours, we are hoping to do a lot of skiing this year (hopefully)  .
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I'm a similar weight and height to you and have 164 M9's. They are supposed to be skied shorter than other skis, this would be the right length.
I bought them the season before last when I had just 3 weeks experience and loved them. Far better that the chalet rental skis I had been used to. I very much doubt they would be too advanced for you.
I can't comment on the off piste ability as I only really ski on piste.
I got them without demoing them and was happy but if you can find somewhere to try a few different skis out this is definitely a good idea.
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rikochet, They'll be perfect in 164. £249 is a bargain.
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rikochet, At that price, wouldn't think twice, take them you will enjoy them.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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This brings up the obvious question of who should actually consider buying the lower models? I'd say nobody really - why buy a ski which you'll grow out of in a week or two? Especially when most higher end skis are generally user friendly these days anyway.
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| uktrailmonster wrote: |
| This brings up the obvious question of who should actually consider buying the lower models? I'd say nobody really - why buy a ski which you'll grow out of in a week or two? Especially when most higher end skis are generally user friendly these days anyway. |
For me, 2 points are as follows: price and usage
I want a ski that is within my price range which I will be able to use for mostly recreational use. Being fairly new to the sport, but have come on very quickly at my age (39), I want something that will reflects my ability, will allow me to progress and at the end of the day be cost effective (and save me time hiring potentially poor skis). I'm not going to progress onto racing, slalom, parks or freestyle 
Metron 9s I think are classed as intermediate->advanced so I don't think I'll grow out of these with a couple of weeks (?)
BTW: Thanks for the replies so far
Cheers
Rik
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You might, if you progress quickly.
M9 review:
"a fairly low energy ski for skiers who are not aggressively honing skills or getting into the rough stuff. Frankly, this is our least favorite in this group, despite slightly better reviews than last year's version received"
M10 review:
"superb ski for improving all mountain skiers who want a "1-ski-quiver." Probably the best value in this group. Not for high energy or aggressive experts, who will certainly prefer the 5 or 11."
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Interesting how reviews can be so subjective (as pointed out in other topics I've read on this forum).
Fall-Line Magazine Gear Review Guide for 2007 says for the M9 plus:
"Maintains a vigourous turn-in rate on hardpack and doesn't feel to twitchy. The big shovel pop it up in the crud and powder....However, you know we said 'isn't too twitch' don't all asleep or you'll find out what 'a little bit twitchy' means. They need a bit of work at all times to stay confortable. Verdit: Punchy and way mor fun than a dedicated slalom ski for most people, pretty versatile."
M10 review:
"...This is the mid-ranger so has a bit mor welly in the tail than the M9.....Can be twitchin a straight line.... Verdict: Best of the range in terms of the price/performance equation. More on-piste than off"
More importantly, if I buy some I'll need to see which M9 goes better with my outfit/boots, the blue or the red ones 
More likely, I'll opt for the Rossi Zenith Z1/Z3s
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rikochet, How heavy are you as rob@rar has a pair of hardly used Metron B5's for sale at £250?
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Hello,
I'm a 24-year old girl from the Netherlands, doubting about which ski to buy. Last winter I skied the Atomic SL9 (160cm), which was okay but sometimes a bit too unforgiving for me. I also tried the Metron 9 (164cm), which was way more stable, but very speedy (in a good way).
Right now I'm wondering what would be 'the best buy' for me: the Metron 9, maybe the female version (balanze metron), or even another brand (maybe Elan Magfire, but which number???, maybe other brands?). I'm also wondering what length I should be skiing?
I hoped you experts could help me in this big snowstorm in my head.
My length is 177cm (I believe it's 5'10") and I weigh about 67 kilo's (which is 148 lbs). I'm a female  , I guess an intermediate skier (I ski blue and red runs controlled and pretty fast, black runs remain a challenge but fun), who likes to ski fast, prefers shorter turns over longer and likes to be in control, and wants to progress over the next few years.
Thanks for all considerations and advice!
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Welcome to  Ilse, I'm not much help for ski advice but I'm sure a few of the resident experts will be along soon.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Ilse wrote: |
Hello,
I'm a 24-year old girl from the Netherlands, doubting about which ski to buy.<snip>
My length is 177cm (I believe it's 5'10") and I weigh about 67 kilo's (which is 148 lbs). I'm a female , I guess an intermediate skier (I ski blue and red runs controlled and pretty fast, black runs remain a challenge but fun), who likes to ski fast, prefers shorter turns over longer and likes to be in control, and wants to progress over the next few years.
Thanks for all considerations and advice! |
Hello and welcome. I'm looking for someone to ski on my Crossmax V12s and would like someone of your height, weight, age and ability. Would you like to come on holiday with my family soon as my wife is too short and light for these skis
PS perhaps you could take it in turns with my wife looking after the children in the evenings, and I could show you the apres ski on your nights off.
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I forgot to mention - I have the elan Magfire 10 in 168cm. We could share skis. 
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You know it makes sense.
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Ilse,
I like my M:9s but 164 would be too long for you. They are designed to be skied shorter than other skis see the chart from this link.
http://www.backcountry.com/store/sizingchart.html?sizing_id=149
You should probably be looking at 157's
I can't comment on female specific skis but there are threads somewhere on here discussing the benefits / disadvantages of them.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Thanks for your reactions: I understand that my choice to buy a pair of M:9's wouldn't hurt me, and that 157cm is a better length for me. I wonder whether there are other options, because I'm drowning in all the brands, models, types, numbers etc. Someone who can shine a light?
@ petemillis: interesting invitation, but I doubt whether your wife would like that 
@ abv: thanks for your thoughts, in the sizingchart I find it hard to be sure about what to fill in, but I prefer shorter turns, and when I fill in intermediate I get 1128, and at advanced I get 1158, so in the table 157 would be good indeed. What I am wondering is whether the ski will be more unstable at higher speeds because of the length?
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Poster: A snowHead
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| petemillis wrote: |
| Ilse wrote: |
Hello,
I'm a 24-year old girl from the Netherlands, doubting about which ski to buy.<snip>
My length is 177cm (I believe it's 5'10") and I weigh about 67 kilo's (which is 148 lbs). I'm a female , I guess an intermediate skier (I ski blue and red runs controlled and pretty fast, black runs remain a challenge but fun), who likes to ski fast, prefers shorter turns over longer and likes to be in control, and wants to progress over the next few years.
Thanks for all considerations and advice! |
Hello and welcome. I'm looking for someone to ski on my Crossmax V12s and would like someone of your height, weight, age and ability. Would you like to come on holiday with my family soon as my wife is too short and light for these skis
PS perhaps you could take it in turns with my wife looking after the children in the evenings, and I could show you the apres ski on your nights off. |
I'll make it easy for you not to worry about Mrs Petemillis finding out about your Crossmaxs. show her this email and she won't be worrying at all about your ski purchase
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