 Poster: A snowHead
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Hi Folks
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Well, I've been wearing the new boots (Head 8.8's) as instructed, all fine except for a slight niggle - I wondered if you might have a idea or two.
When I take my foot out of the boot the plate in the base of the liner, that I'd call the 'insole' in a conventional pair of shoes, is moving with the foot and ends up bent/buckled at the base of the boot once I've removed my foot - so I then have to push it back flat with my fingers. I don't think it will do much for the longevity of the thing unless I can stop it. Anyone got any ideas - I've thought about a bit of sticky velcro under it, but thought I might feel it under foot, or maybe a bit of double sided tape. Has any one had similar problems and found a better solution that they'd like to share?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| Megamum wrote: |
Hi Folks
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Well, I've been wearing the new boots (Head 8.8's) as instructed, all fine except for a slight niggle - I wondered if you might have a idea or two.
When I take my foot out of the boot the plate in the base of the liner, that I'd call the 'insole' in a conventional pair of shoes, is moving with the foot and ends up bent/buckled at the base of the boot once I've removed my foot - so I then have to push it back flat with my fingers. I don't think it will do much for the longevity of the thing unless I can stop it. Anyone got any ideas - I've thought about a bit of sticky velcro under it, but thought I might feel it under foot, or maybe a bit of double sided tape. Has any one had similar problems and found a better solution that they'd like to share? |
Yeah, Superfeet, Downunders, Alines, Conformables.    
Seriously, those aren't doing anything for you except (maybe) keeping your foot slightly dryer.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Megamum,
The insoles supplied with the boots, are normally of very low quality. It is usual to throw them away and get some proper custom footbeds, as mentioned by comprex, The quality of the fit will be transformed with proper footbeds. It is definately worth spending the extra money.
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Megamum, the guys have said it...the quality of these insoles is nothing more than a bit of carpet tile, the one in the Head Edge is particularliy bad [ not that others are any better]
spend a little more and have comfort and better performance 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Megamum,
Used my old footbed and took the insoles out of my Head 9.8's and put them in my slippers. Toastie toes but the insole still buckled up so I ditched that idea. 
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Hi folks, I've read sufficient on here that you saying 'insoles' doesn't really surprise me, but given their cost I thought it worth the question. The shop I got the boots from can supply the 'Superfeet' ones, I think they were about £32, I do often see this brand recommended on here so I guess they must be OK - is that price about right?  I guess that's the flip side of budget boots, maybe if I'd have paid more I'd have got decent insoles included. Half of me is saying get a week out of the existing ones and go for the insoles in the summer, but the other half is saying if the old ones demolish themselves 1/2 way through the holiday then I've got the problem of trying to get replacements in our small resort - I think it might be worth taking the plunge and not muttering to anyone here how much they cost - I'm the only one that ever looks at the bank statement!!
If I paid a visit is it just a case of buying a set the correct size and replacing them for the old ones, or do I need to take the boots and have the insides re-heat molded to my foot once the insoles are inside - or do they even mold the insoles?
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Megamum, you could have paid a lot and still not had decent footbeds. In my opinion, with the price of ski boots I don't see why they can't include a proper footbed. If your's fold every time you pull your foot out then I would say that the footbed in your boots is not "fit for purpose" or not of "merchantable quality". You could try saying those words to the ski shop and see if you can get a discount on the new footbeds. They'll either be happy to oblige or they'll get upset!
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petemillis, Now there's an idea....... I must admit I've sometimes succeeded with that tack (got a brilliant music combi for a good price out of Rumblelows one day by wandering into a packed shop (which always helps) and saying "that's the fourth duff system I've walked out of here with - I want my money back!!"). I wouldn't be that hard on the ski shop esp. as I'm trying to make some friends there - after all you want them to treat you right, but as you say the insoles are hardly fit for purpose if they are buckling after a half hour walk on a carpet - makes me wonder what they'll be like after 4 hours on the slopes (assuming we can find some snow). I certainly might pay a visit on that basis. Thanks
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petemillis, Megamum, the standard footbed that comes with most boots has always been and will always remain a cheap piece of carpet tile, there are a couple of key reasons for this
1 the boot manufacturer must supply something that fits everyone [to a point, remember that around 90% of ski boots are bought by people selecting their perceived size in a coulor they like] if they put a structured footbed into a boot and you have a flat foot that cannot tolerate shape then you would find it uncomfortable, just as if you are in need of a custom made footbed or a corrective orthotic you would have to remove the supplied one and throw it away, approx 40% of people can get away with an off the peg footbed 55% would benefit from a custom footbed the other 5% either cannot wear anything [foot rigid and pathalogically flat] or require a corrective medical orthotic due to more serious foot problems [these are approximate figures but give an idea of the point i am trying to make]
this would mean around 60% would have to remove the supplied footbed to get something else.
2 cost!!!!! if brand A for example were to put a decent footbed into their boots then they would want a margin of the product, so the price of their boots would go up....compare that to brand B who didn't put in a decent insole their boots are some £30 cheaper and seem like better value to the consumer, who in general is still not educated to the reasons for the extra cost.
Megamum, the reason for the folding is most likely that it was not in the boot properly in the first place and now that the little structure it had has been compromised it will always fold the way it is... i am 100% sure if you went into any half decent ski shop they will find you a pair of insoles FOC to replace the folding ones, infact PM me the boot size and your address and i will send you a pair. however my original advice still stands, the extra cost for a decent structured footbed is money well spent
until people understand the biomechanics of skiing they are willing to accept the carpet tile approach, when an understanding of the forces and motions involved is gained and you ski for the first time with a proper footbed then 99% will never go back to skiing without one, that said they have to be well made, there are a lot of people out there making poor quality products and if you are not 100% sure of the skills of the fitter then you can do a lot worse than getting a quality off the peg device, either superfeet trim to fit or the conformable step in, whatever one it is make sure it is sized correctly the biggest problem with these products is people self selecting based on the sizes on the box [and perceved foot size] or being sized wrongly by inept shop staff.
hopefully this explains the reasons why, as i said PM your details and i will send you a replacement insole 
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