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| Bode Swiller wrote: |
1.3 million according to the two biggest industry surveys... and that's trips not people. So, I reckon the actual figure is under a million. |
I'm never quite sure how they work out such a figure. When I book a ferry crossing or a flight, how does someone in the "industry" know whether I'm going skiing or biking or even working?
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RobW, I think they take an educated guess at the independent market and gather what stats they can from wherever they can get them. The package market is easier as AC Neilson (no relation to the tour op) produce stats that everyone seems to agree with. I know that Dover Harbour Board used to count cars with skis on roofracks and I'm sure the tunnel does similar. The national tourist offices also produce their own stats on the UK market - the Austrians have very detailed numbers on overnights... those forms you fill in at the reception desk with your passport number all get collated locally and then centrally. I'm 43.7% right about all this and that's a fact.
Last Ski Sunday was much better than those previous. Hate to say it but it's growing on me. Remember, Fawlty Towers was a flop first time round.
You are being watched by the way.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Bode Swiller wrote: |
Mario Matt
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There are anly about 2-3 million Brits go skiing at all each winter
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1.3 million according to the two biggest industry surveys... and that's trips not people. So, I reckon the actual figure is under a million. And, for most, it's a week a year... that makes it a minority sport IMV. Darts players do their "sport" all year round. |
I thought there were 1.8 million TO wintersports package holidays sold the last year I've seen figures for. That was from the last Crystal Report
I was assuming rather less than that doing DIY trips.
But having just checked, I see that I was badly mis-remembering. It was 1.18 million not 1.8 million, and that was total, not just TO. 
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RobW, Depends where the data is collected. Each time I've stayed in a ski resort hotel reception takes my passport so if the data is collected by the hoteliers/chalet owners,etc then the industry should be able to get accurate figures on the nationalities of resort clientele.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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On another note
I watched skiiers world the other day which had features on Aspen, Snow park in NZ and tips for all different skiing abilities. I thought it was a brilliant programme even though it was only a brief 1/2 an hour. I would like to see Ski Sunday being a similar to skiiers world with skiing coverage and a summer trek.
Skiiers World is an excellent programme.
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I'm fed up watching the same swarmy fella, touring the world's more exotic resorts.
What do you mean, am I jealous?
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alex_heney,
Dart "NOT a minority sport"? They hold the world championships (well one of them) in the Circus Tavern! To be honest with you I cannot believe that more than 1 in 30 people in the UK actually play darts (which is what it would need to be if more than 2 million of the population play it!
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Well according to surveys, more people play darts in this country than play any of Football, Cricket or Rugby. And since Football has around 10% participation, that would make datrs more than 1 in 10. Which seems pretty likley to me.
I'm not sure what 2 million has to do with anything though? There certainly aren't anything like 2 million UK people who ski competitively.
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alex_heney, not sure what competetive has to do with it. Nobody drives a Formula 1 car to work but millions like to watch it on TV.
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| arlberg wrote: |
I'm fed up watching the same swarmy fella, touring the world's more exotic resorts.
What do you mean, am I jealous? |
if your talking about the snow boarder , then i dont see much to be jealous about.. 12 hours on a plane miss a flight 3 hours on that, stay in a craphole, wait 3 days to get one run (albiet a good one) down a very long, relativly unsteep slope with a total Z telemarking next to you .. then have to get all the way home.. er thanks salzburg large merc for me please...
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Bode Swiller, I would say that motorsport is quite a minority sport too, although there are a lot more who do participate than just those involved at F1 level.
And competitive is significant because when not competing with others, it is a hobby rather than a sport.
Top gear is about driving and cars from the "hobby" POV, while Grand Prix/Rally coverage is about motor sport.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Is it possible to do the time trial on Graham's GS course? Only I'll be in the area next month and fancied a try,
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prog99, well it wasn;t there when I was in Courmayeur the week before the programme started. I would assume they filmed it all in one go over two or three days
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You know it makes sense.
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prog99, they don't have the course set up all the time, i think they hire the piste out for various races and training. It was the piste we used for the property industry race a couple of weeks ago.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I'm pretty sure that the course was marked out when I was there during the first weekend in Feb which was the weekend of the 3rd programme of the series I think. I didn't venture over to it coz I thought it was for real race training and I didn't make the link with Ski Sunday at the time.
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Poster: A snowHead
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halfhand, that was for our race.
I wouldn't be surprised if they filmed that for Ski Sunday last season even?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I think the celeb GS runs were filmed back in December.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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well burg is castle, berg is mountain, GCSE german actually taught me something 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Great episode. With the red button action I think the formula is almost right. The Whistler Super G was wild! I want some of that.
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Oooh, this could start something...
Votes for who should host Strictly Come Apres-Skiing with Racing on the Red Button.
Judith Chalmers has one already...
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Meow 
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Alastair Pink, It was good seeing the Eagle's nest though wasn't it. When I was young my parents took me to see it and also to the salt mine. The trip to the salt mine is one of my most enduring memories of childhood holidays. We all had to dress up in mining uniforms and funny hats and had to wear a leather apron back to front so that you didn't get friction burns on your butt when you slid down those big long slides. Then there was a light show where they played Strauss music as you floated across the salt lakes on a barge. I was only about 5years old but it was magical.
Thought the rest of tonights programme was good too. Whatshername celebrity came across as a nice person and seemed quite a good laugh. I'd like to go skiing with her. 
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I like the idea of ski sunday being a magazine style prog rather than just racing- but really didn't do it for me at all...not sure why it just seemed utter tosh
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Well I just watched my first episode of ski sunday for about 15 years.... it's changed quite a lot hasn't it!!! I did enjoy it though, the format worked for me! However is there anywhere to actually watch skiing?
p.s. Sandboarding looked rubbish!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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roga, Yeh, that's 'cos you are jet lagged you lucky barsteward
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You know it makes sense.
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roga, It sounded great!!! Glad you enjoyed it 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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| ski-finder wrote: |
Well I just watched my first episode of ski sunday for about 15 years.... it's changed quite a lot hasn't it!!! I did enjoy it though, the format worked for me! However is there anywhere to actually watch skiing?
p.s. Sandboarding looked rubbish! |
Yup. I've decided to give it a miss 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Celebrith whatshername I thought she was a stuffy toff till I seen her on that last night came across really well and like a good laugh Can I be excused As I want to go to Whistler now I have been day dreaming about it all day
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| ski-finder wrote: |
| p.s. Sandboarding looked rubbish! |
didn't it? And the snowy stuff. He sure enjoys a long ride for a short slide.
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[quote="roga"][quote="ickabodblue"]"Whatshername celebrity" quote]
Claire Balding is her name, anyone that has ridden horses esp. thoroughbreds should find skiing easy, although she hasn't the most athletic build.
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She has for a horse 
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| alex_heney wrote: |
| Top gear is about driving and cars from the "hobby" POV |
Is it? I thought it was a vehicle (see what I did there)?) for Jeremy Clarkson with a vague background of cars. I'm the only one in our household who doesn't like TG and I'm the only one with an interest in cars. Ski Sunday is becoming much the same, only with skiing as a backgorund and without Clarkson and ..., well not that much the same, then.
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This episode just shown was excellent. I have been critical of a lot of the skiing in irrelevant locations and general travel channel stuff etc Even though there have been good features and the lack of ski racing doesnt bother me that much as I tune into Eurosport.
But tonights episode was mostly all about skiing thank god. I really enjoyed the Tarentaise Top gear esque racing. Good brief Racing coverage. Colin Jackson was such a good self taught skiier once again really enjoyed that. Summer time in Austria was interesting enough.
Shame such a good episdoe has come so late in the season.
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Christopher, I agree, I really enjoyed tonight's episode.
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Yes I thought tonight's episode was the best yet, though I couldn't watch some of the falls and i wish Ed had won the race 
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