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Gordon Brown has just announced a doubling of Air Passenger Duty, starting from Feb 2007. Short haul Duty will be £10, currently £5. Not sure about long haul flights.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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So that's a major contribution to tackling road congestion by offering viable alternatives 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| boredsurfin wrote: |
| So that's a major contribution to tackling road congestion by offering viable alternatives |
He's increased fuel duty as well (1.5p per litre, from midnight tonight).
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I heard a reduction on the rebate for trains using mixed biofuels or something as well, so that's the planes, trains and automobiles stuffed then.
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rob@rar, Lot's of money for education, or is that the usual smoke and mirrors promises?
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boredsurfin, bloke on radio just said it was the money already announced being re-announced
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| boredsurfin wrote: |
| rob@rar, Lot's of money for education, or is that the usual smoke and mirrors promises? |
I'd need to look more closely at the Pre-Budget Report bundle to see, but if previous years are anything to go by there is genuinely extra money for education, but a fair measure of spin and double-counting when the headline figures are calculated.
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so if I booked flights a few months ago for April 2007, will the carrier charge me for this extra surcharge???
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Let's hope that at least some of the extra revenue raised goes on public transport. Fat chance.
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| kitenski wrote: |
| so if I booked flights a few months ago for April 2007, will the carrier charge me for this extra surcharge??? |
I can't see any info about this on either BA's website or HM Treasury. Exact Duties will be (from 1 Feb):
Flights to European Aviation Area
Economy ticket rate of duty £10
All other classes of travel £20
All other destinations
Economy £40
Other classes £80
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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rob@rar, So is that £80 on a return flight to e.g New York
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Frosty the Snowman, no, the duty is levied only on flights from the UK.
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Apparently Browns statement amounts to another 2 Billion in Taxes.
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You know it makes sense.
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Sage, I bet he doesn't announce those twice.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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OhFF'Sake, we've known for for at least two years that Blair, Blunkett, Brown et al had screwed the pooch on extraordinarily incompetent spending policy and that the black hole in the treasury purse was going to get a shovel-full of input before the booger's backside started polishing the No10 furniture . . . watch the politics . . . it's going to be messy as Brown unloads the guilt for tax increases onto Blair and his sycophants.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Masque,
That probably is a good take.. I never for one minute think the green taxes have actually anything to do with...er...green issues.
And even with Brown's rosy forecasts, he isn't half in hurry to grab more money... he might try telling us what he is spending it all on..
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Even the bloke on the BBC (Evan Davies?) said Brown was reaching behind the settee to find a few coins to make ends meet.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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laundryman, Whoever gets Browns job isn't going to have much left to work with.
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| Sage wrote: |
| laundryman, Whoever gets Browns job isn't going to have much left to work with. |
It looks like a hospital pass. Whoever gets it won't be able to blame their predecessor, given it's likely to be their boss. Maybe it will be time to dust off the "we blame it on 18 years of Tory misrule" phrase books. I bet there will be a fair amount of ducking and diving when the vacancy comes up.
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| kitenski wrote: |
| so if I booked flights a few months ago for April 2007, will the carrier charge me for this extra surcharge??? |
Very good question - does anyone know the answer?
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more reason to drive !! 
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The Times said this morning that the extra levy was on flights booked after 1st February 2007. I have a long-standing booking for 10th, so I wanted to know.
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Chris Bish, If you've paid in full and the contract established then if they try to apply a new charge to the contract and there's not a loophole in the fine print you can probably tell them to suck up the costs themselves . . . do you feel lucky punk? 
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| rob@rar wrote: |
| Gordon Brown has just announced a doubling of Air Passenger Duty, starting from Feb 2007. Short haul Duty will be £10, currently £5. Not sure about long haul flights. |
We now live in a quasi-Communist tax-and-spend state.
The overall tax burden is higher than most major competitors' (e.g. US). Public-sector jobs in some parts of Britain make up more of the total than in Communist China. The government is bloated and overstaffed.
Time to vote the Tories back in and get taxes down. Even if you hate them.
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| Whitegold wrote: |
| rob@rar wrote: |
| Gordon Brown has just announced a doubling of Air Passenger Duty, starting from Feb 2007. Short haul Duty will be £10, currently £5. Not sure about long haul flights. |
We now live in a quasi-Communist tax-and-spend state.
The overall tax burden is higher than most major competitors' (e.g. US). Public-sector jobs in some parts of Britain make up more of the total than in Communist China. The government is bloated and overstaffed.
Time to vote the Tories back in and get taxes down. Even if you hate them. |
whilst i would hope the tories would reduce the size of the states role in the economy.. i wouldnt hope for too much in the way of lower taxes fro transport from cameron.. he is a far bigger tree hugger than brown.. browns just in it for the money.. cameron actually believes it will make a difference
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brian
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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so to repeat a previous question..... how does this affect flights already booked, paid but fly in feb / march?
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shockingmoment, as I understand the situation, the charge applies. There is some lobbying going on by the airlines to try to amend this to make it all flights booked after Feb 1st, but this would involve a change of attitude from the Treasury. Whether the airline pay or we pay (and how they collect the money) is yet to be determined, but as I understand it, at the moment the charge applies.
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You know it makes sense.
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shockingmoment, it depends on how you booked. Tour Operators have a scheme that they cover the first 2% of the total cost of the holiday in increased fees so as long as the package is more than £250 then you won't pay any extra.
If the flight was booked on it's own though you should be liable for the extra cost. However, the airlines are tying to get the government to change it so that it only applies to flights paid for after that date.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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thanks folks - me too.
4 flights in feb, 2 in march.
Does it just apply to the outbound leg or both out and return?
I really really wouldn't mind if the revenue generated was used to really combat global warming. But somehow, I don't it is.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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shockingmoment, outbound flights only.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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It's like the amount of road duty we pay, very little trickles back into road maintainence. The HA seems to allow very little for schemes lately... so if the M6 falls apart don't blame me!!!
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Yup. Basically a tax raising thing, I reckon.
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And how are the airlines going to collect this, set up tills at the check in desks, send people a bill before their flights? Seems like a lot of extra expense for the airlines as well.
Another poorly thought out piece of legislation - roll on Thursday 3rd May 2007, first chance for us up here to comment on their policies.
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Like they collect excess baggage charges.
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