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The models have largely backed off setting up another hairdryer style foehn. Now looks that high pressure will sit mainly to the NE of the alps. Daytime freezing levels shouldn't get much above 2000m (I guess inversions are a distinct possibility as well so lower slopes might actually be colder) and nights have a decent chance of being clear and frosty.
No really cold weather on the horizon yet though. 
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Hi Brian, As much i enjoy followiing yours and carled reports, you loose me when you talk about foehn and inversions 
Basically no new snow due and temp rising, thats waht seem to be the trend on the website around
Seems nothing new unitl 20th Dec ish, hopefully in time for the people who are in the Christmas get away to the Alps club, which i am one of those "slightly worried" club members this year
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brian
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CrowJersey,
So am I
Foehn = warm dry wind.
Inversion = temps opposite to normal, warm higher up, colder lower down. It happens in still conditions when cold air sinks and there's no wind to mix it around. Leads to all those "above the clouds" type photos.
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15-20cm yesterday in Stowe 
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CrowJersey, me too. Tignes 19th - 26th. Not worried though, there's always the prospect of a few genepi, and some nice fondue to cheer me up! 
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MeteoSwiss (as interpreted by WRG) were forecasting up to a metre in some places over the weekend.
Chamonix is forecasting a little more like 10-30cms in town, but it's a start.
It is filthy outside my office right now...
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you loose me when you talk about foehn and inversions
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Just remember that in some parts the local name for the foehn wind is "snow eater" and you get the picture.....
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For the glass half-full people;
The last few GFS runs seem to be tending in the right direction temperature-wise. Next week, still warmer than average but not quite as extreme as they originally plotted-the week after, colder than first thought.
Still loads of scatter-que sera sera.
Am in Courchevel 1650 on 16 Dec-so if anyone's out there next week, I'd be grateful for a 'heads-up'!
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We've just had a localised almost hurricane - evidently it was a gentle breeze over at the station 10-15 minutes' walk away. Our neighbours have a glass-topped table on their balcony and the glass just blew into our garden, landed on a corner then tipped over, taking a huge chunk out of the lawn - but remained totally intact!
Can vouch for the presence of Föhn this morning - 20 deg in our garden - but the clouds are coming in now and temp seems to be dropping
We're at 640m btw
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David Murdoch, you have teh same ferns as our chalet!
snowing in the valley in serre che that is 1400 (where i am anyway!) but it looks like its snowing down to briancon which is 1200m
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I want to see pictures of snowing!!
Please... 
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I looked at Les arcs looks quite a promising weekend with some cold weather and snow
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You know it makes sense.
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| Tom Lowe wrote: |
| I looked at Les arcs looks quite a promising weekend with some cold weather and snow |
It started snowing in Les Arcs about an hour ago; a moderate amount. Snowline down to about 1700m, and temps are falling.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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PICTURES ! NOW !
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Poster: A snowHead
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is that white stuff on the ground snow? No footprints....
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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no kidding?
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rob@rar, can you nip down to the road, write snowheads in the snow and then post another photo?
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Snow line def down to 700m when we got up this morning and the rain here at 640m is just turning into sleet The temp is dropping as we go through the day
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Well ive held off long enough! Ive got the week before Xmas off and have been waiting for the white stuff to fall before deciding on the resort.
Question is, St Anton or Val Disere? Any advice as to the most likely to see white would be muchos appreciated. 
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Val D'Isere
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You know it makes sense.
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rob@rar,  nice one
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Poster: A snowHead
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Thanks, was swaying toward Val, however if both had poor snow it was going to be a decision on the best Apres Ski and from what I hear there would be one Austrian winner there
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Nicksterrr,
Welcome to 's
As a matter of interest why choose between Val d'I and St A the steeper stuff usually needs better coverage so you probably won't be getting any more challenging skiing for your buck and somewhere like Ischgl sounds like it may have better snow than either.
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Hmm may look into Ischgl, cant say I know it, though am used to the French and Italian resorts so Austria all new to me.
Thanks
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Nicksterrr, Val/Tignes are looking good today, checkout the webcams thread.
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AxsMan,
They might be looking good but the depth is not great 35 cm upper slopes in Val according to their web site, which is not a lot as a fair bit of the terrain is rocky I believe. Ischgl is not a whole lot better actually at 50cm on the upper slopes with maybe a bit more predicted they have 65km of piste open though.
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| brian wrote: |
CrowJersey,
So am I
Foehn = warm dry wind.
Inversion = temps opposite to normal, warm higher up, colder lower down. It happens in still conditions when cold air sinks and there's no wind to mix it around. Leads to all those "above the clouds" type photos. |
Inversions:
Logic would tell us that the warm air should rise but we have to take into account where the heat source is.
Obviously it is the sun but the sun's rays barely warm the air; instead they play on the earth's surface and warm the ground which by conduction warms the air; so the heating starts at the ground and is then lost back to space, giving rise to a drop in temperature of 6.49 C per 1000m (in free air).
Most inversions occur when there is a fog which stops the sun's rays reaching the earth and also acts as a cap on the cold air at the ground.
The visible "fog" is not always present but can be just a very humid layer some 100's of metres above the ground.
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Flims/Laax is reporting 70 cm at 2200m and 115 cm on the glacier at 3000m
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