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I noticed a discussion on the Zermatt thread about how much piste is needed.
When selecting a resort is there an ideal (or minimum) piste km that you require for a week?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Haven't we had this discussion before? I'm an almost 100% on-piste skier and dislike skiing the same runs more than half a dozen times a holiday so somewhere 100km+. Ideally 200km+, anything over that is 'lots' in my experience.
Not just the number though - take a look at what is there: connectivity between the slopes, variety of hills/gradients/likely views, number of blues/reds, height etc.
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My position remains unchanged "its not about the quantity its about the quality". Give me one immaculated groomed wide run with no-one on it rather than 100ks of connecting cat tracks & busy pistes.
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fatbob, indeed. Give me a nice, narrow, steep(ish) run and I'll be happy. Or give me one, immaculately groomed wide run with no-on on it rather than 100ks of connecting cat tracks and busy pistes. I'm happy to do the same run over and over to improve technique.
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Ray Zorro, there's 400m of moguls in Schladming that would take me a week to get down keeping upright for the whole hill. 
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Variety is more important for me, although smaller resorts have less opportunity for a range of pistes than larger resorts so the two factors are not mutually exclusive. Ideally I'd like to have high altitude open bowl skiing, a good selection of steeper reds and blacks, steep pistes that are prepared and steep pistes that are left to develop bumps, tree-lined pistes, and a good selection of gentle off-piste including some through the trees. If I can have all of those things the ability to ski to different villages and a modern lift system are big bonuses 
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As rob@rar says, it's good to be able to ski to different villages. Otherwise it's the quality rather than the quantity that's important to me, and that includes scenery and decent refuelling facilities as well as good (and preferably quiet, I can just about remember that) pistes. My ventures into off piste are few and tentative, so it's interesting pistes rather than off piste that I look for
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rob@rar, Hmm now I believe a resort like that can be seen from the worlds best resort 
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I'm with a.j. on this one, for a full week in one resort, 100km+ I like the feeling of skiing to a "distant" place for lunch, then coming back, for example. Can't think of much worse than skiing the same run over & over, working on my technique - aaahhhh! You might as well go to Milton Keynes for that.
Quality & variety of terrain, and how busy a particular area is will make me spend more time in a certain part of a lift system tho. A good example is the bit round courchevel 1650:- not actually any better than any other part of the 3V, but a bit quieter so more fun.
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I agree with both sides - if I'm with the family we go to smaller resorts (e.g. Passo Tonale) and I enjoy just cruising the runs over and over. If I'm away with my mates we go to bigger resorts (e.g. Morzine) and cover lots of terrain.
I'm happy with both 
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You know it makes sense.
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Disagree, what is the point in spending a morning 'travelling' on lifts and connecting pistes just to get somewhere for lunch and then return doing the same. Whenever I do this, the day seems to be spent on lifts, queuing and skiing down pistes I would usually avoid. Give me a few good runs of steeps, bumps, schusses (sic?) and powder any day, that way your skiing time is 10 fold more than 'restaurant touring'.
Though it is nice to know it is there...
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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200km+ ideally but depends on lot's of other variables. I do like the feeling I'm travelling somewhere, up and down the same run gets boring unless it's down into Val D at the end of the day in which case 'interesting' would be one way of describing it. Like trying to ski down your high street at 30mph in the sales would be another.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Most lifts go upwards rather than accross, surely.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Favourite resort: La Grave. Kilometres of piste: zero.
But mileage: yes, yes.
Last edited by Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person on Fri 10-11-06 14:47; edited 1 time in total
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Disagree, what is the point in spending a morning 'travelling' on lifts and connecting pistes just to get somewhere for lunch and then return doing the same. Whenever I do this, the day seems to be spent on lifts, queuing and skiing down pistes I would usually avoid. Give me a few good runs of steeps, bumps, schusses (sic?) and powder any day, that way your skiing time is 10 fold more than 'restaurant touring'
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Why not go down "steeps, bumps, schusses (sic?) and powder" on the way to a far-flung corner of the lift system? You don't have to get around using the blue runs martski, use your imagination! If you go up & down the same run over & over you will spend just as much time queuing & sitting on the chairlift. At least if you are "restaurant touring" you get a different view each time you park your bum.
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Sage, I agree, it al depends on the mood and the company. Sometimes its nice just to pootle about a small resort. cruising between rest stops and going round for another 'circuit' Other times it great to really feel you travelled across the mountain from one village to another. I suppose if I had to choose I'd like a large ski area with lots of cute easy stuff dotted about to give me the best of both worlds.
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I think I'm with Goldilocks! I've certainly been in places that are too small to entertain me for long. OTOH, I don't need a mega, linked resort to keep me happy for a week. I like to get to know some runs well, and work out good lines, where I can safely let the skis run, etc.
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easiski, I've not read the "Zermatt thread" but that does sound cobblers. OTOH I could understand an advanced piste skier getting bored with Cervinia in less than a week!
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too many numbers here.. what about weather, the people you are with etc its 'un' or 'in' definable.. some days your in the groove others you arn't ..
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I really enjoy the sense of travelling around, exploring and finding new areas, pistes, villages, restaurants when I ski. So I suppose I do enjoy big, linked areas most.
I like to have a separate piste map I keep at the chalet and then colour in with a zig zag line when I get back in the evening to show everywhere I've skied that day. If I get to the end of the week, and it's all coloured in, that would be best  ~ but not quite managed it yet.
Les Arcs, Trois Vallees, Espace Killy are all 'big enough' (!)
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SkiBod, you should have come to the PSB last week then, could have skied the map easy in a day 
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| rob@rar wrote: |
| Variety is more important for me, although smaller resorts have less opportunity for a range of pistes than larger resorts so the two factors are not mutually exclusive. Ideally I'd like to have high altitude open bowl skiing, a good selection of steeper reds and blacks, steep pistes that are prepared and steep pistes that are left to develop bumps, tree-lined pistes, and a good selection of gentle off-piste including some through the trees. If I can have all of those things the ability to ski to different villages and a modern lift system are big bonuses |
Wow! Sounds like Serre Chevalier (in a good winter). Mmmmmmm!
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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snowball's beaten me to it. 0km of piste, but probably with a lift to take me 2km uphill every now and again - say after every 20km of skiing or so (and maybe an hour or two of skinning in between times for a bit of variety). Heaven!
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GrahamN, skinning? You a boarder GrahamN?
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You know it makes sense.
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Too many factors to take into account
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Mark Hunter, pah...wash your mouth out young man....skinning as in "walking uphill with skins under the skis"...aka touring .
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Poster: A snowHead
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GrahamN, heh heh hiding them from the boarders eh? Teach the mid-slope sitting blighters eh?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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If its interesting, milelage doesn't come into it. I've spent all day on the same lift...and just doing variations of the run down.
Generally, I'm not interested in where the pistes go... I'm more interested in where the lift goes....
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Im a bit of a cruiser so i like 100km+ and also, as has been stated, skiing to different villages is lots of fun. I did spend 4 days at a place with 12km of runs (basically one red, one black and one blue) and i enjoyed it because i was skiing and the runs were very nice but if i have the choice I much prefer a bigger place.
Also, variety is defintely important. Im off to the Ziller Valley next year so I should have lots of fun with 600km of pistes, lots of different resorts, glacier etc.
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I reckon that if I'm on my own I need 100km+ to keep me entertained, although with good company such as the PSB anyold slap of ice will do
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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