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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| SnowHot wrote: |
This question was posed in another forum and I'm not sure how to answer it.
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Burnin Luv=Metal Laminate
One Luv= Torsion Box
What's the difference between the two? |
I've demoed the one luv and thought it to be noodly
I am going on Fox's review of the Burnin luv(what was I thinking?  )
Obviously the Burnin luv is substantial enough to satisfy a man. (see rolly eye comment above)
So what is the real difference?
I would guess that the torsion box is just that.
Offers more torsional flex to the ski(hence the noodle effect)
The Metal laminate is a sort of reinforcer to give the ski a more substantial feel, thus the loss of the noodle effect.
Am I on the right track?
I really hate it when I don't know something I should know.  |
Ahem, yes, they satisfied me, but remember, I'm only a beginner/intermediate...
Anyway, the technical difference is this...
laminate = sandwich (ok, the exterior is a cap construction, but the core is a sandwich)
you have a layer of metal, then a layer of wood, then a layer of metal.
The torsion box construction consists of weaving fibres around a core. The core is rectangular in cross section, so the fibres form a "box". Due to the way the fibres are woven (diagonal criss-cross) it is supposed to give better torsional characteristics - i.e. make it evenly stiff in all planes. (Hence the "torsion" bit)
Here's a couple of quotes from K2...
Triaxial Braided- This patented and proprietary technology wraps an interlocking fiberglass weave around the skis wood core at 38 degrees to provide a strong, lightweight ski with optimum torsional stiffness.
Torsion Box Sidewall- Torsion Box construction is K2's most widely used, yet simplest lay-up because of its versatility and its ability to create so many different kinds of skis depending on the amount of flex and torsion designed into the construction. Torsion box’s construction tends to have lively and energetic characteristics that provide a high degree of rebound and performance.
Hope that will keep the Diva in you happy! 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Wear The Fox Hat wrote: |
Anyway, the technical difference is this...
laminate = sandwich (ok, the exterior is a cap construction, but the core is a sandwich)
you have a layer of metal, then a layer of wood, then a layer of metal.
The torsion box construction consists of weaving fibres around a core. The core is rectangular in cross section, so the fibres form a "box". Due to the way the fibres are woven (diagonal criss-cross) it is supposed to give better torsional characteristics - i.e. make it evenly stiff in all planes. (Hence the "torsion" bit)
Here's a couple of quotes from K2...
Triaxial Braided- This patented and proprietary technology wraps an interlocking fiberglass weave around the skis wood core at 38 degrees to provide a strong, lightweight ski with optimum torsional stiffness.
Torsion Box Sidewall- Torsion Box construction is K2's most widely used, yet simplest lay-up because of its versatility and its ability to create so many different kinds of skis depending on the amount of flex and torsion designed into the construction. Torsion box’s construction tends to have lively and energetic characteristics that provide a high degree of rebound and performance.
Hope that will keep the Diva in you happy! |
Well, yes!
or should I say .YES OH YES!
This is pretty much what I was thinking. But far more wordy which is just what I needed. Thanks!
Fox, as always you're a true friend.
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| WTFH wrote: |
but remember, I'm only a beginner/intermediate
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Oh yes? On whose scale?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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admin, Limescale.
(on the scale of the "experts" here)
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More intermediate than beginner I would say....................just 
EDIT:
I saw some expert skiers at the PSB. I doubt many, if any, snowheads are in that league
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Orange boots say expert, shiny head says old man, accent leans more towards Aprés. I think that averages out to intermediate 
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| Frosty the Snowman wrote: |
More intermediate than beginner I would say....................just
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I saw some expert skiers at the PSB. I doubt many, if any, snowheads are in that league |
I'm getting the impression that I'm going to have an opportunity to hit the fox with some ski chick snow spray
Maybe I should bring the karmas instead of the luvs.
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Frosty the Snowman, I beg to differ!
FenlandSkier, Orange boots were free. Shiny head is due to high testosterone levels. Accent is due to birth/growing up.
...Now all I need is to find a company that makes extra small condoms...
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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This was actually a question about equipment structure. It is turning into a social event. Maybe the admin needs to move it to apres' ski?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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SnowHot, my fault. Perhaps if a few people would like to point out the errors in my first post, it could be brought back to an equipment thread...
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Wear The Fox Hat, NO problems with me.
I'm quite the social diva when it comes to my skiing. I find that others, however, tend to be a bit miffed at my "social diva-ness"
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You know it makes sense.
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I think we should ignore the marketing blurb and measure the torsional characteristics for ourselves!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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(sort of ) on-topic, Mrs Axs and the two older Axsettes demoed the one luvs, burnin luvs and lotta luvs at the EB Ski Test at Xscape. Result - One pair of Burnin luvs and two pairs of Lotta luvs now added to roof box. They all liked the burnin luvs 'feel' but thought the lotta-luvs felt just as good and would be better in the powder (should they find any).
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Poster: A snowHead
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Am I right in thinking torsional stiffness = good on ice?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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FenlandSkier, yes.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I had a pair of Rossi RPM 90 for last week's PSB and they felt very good on the ice, I don't think my B2's would have been anywhere near as good. I like in general the stiffer SL/GS skis (and from the reviews I've since read the RPM is based on the 9X GS) and it made me think a bit more about the stiffer skis I'd tested and how they'd be on the ice.
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FenlandSkier, Wear The Fox Hat,For being a blonde, I asked a pretty good question didn't I?
Wear The Fox Hat, the Diva who asked doesn't seem to care now
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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SnowHot,  they're all good questions when it comes to things like equipment & technique.
Even if only 1 person who reads the answer learns something then it was still worth asking.
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Funny thing is......I spend my time on Snowheads socializing, but on Epic, I nearly live in the gear section, and am actually known for my quiver of skis
Want me to list them?
I'm pretty happy that I already knew the answer to this question. I'd have been terribly embarassed if I hadn't be correct in my thinking.
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Wear The Fox Hat, I heard a rumour that you are hosting drama queen lessons at ESA. Is this true? 
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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Wear The Fox Hat, Here is the thread on SkiDiva that this question was brought up.
http://www.theskidiva.com/forums/showthread.php?t=398
Again, I was right in my thinking of the difference, but I wanted to be sure before I posted it. As you can see Volklgirl got into it a bit more techy after I posted.
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SnowHot, you mean I wrote all that reply, and you changed it to 2 lines? not fair!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Wear The Fox Hat, sometimes less is more!
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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SnowHot, that's what I tell the girls...
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Wear The Fox Hat,are you intermediate in all facetts of your life?
I remember watching video of you, and aside from the fact that you appeared to be doing drills, I'd say you're upper intermediate, not beginner intermediate, AND if you relax a bit and let yourself forget about yourself you may even be advanced.
Now the other area of your life where less is more.........are we talking about hair?
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You know it makes sense.
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SnowHot, oh, I'm advanced at hair loss (my bath used to have loads of hair in it, it doesn't any more). Advanced at driving (with a certificate to say so). Advanced at waist expansion (it's a growth industry for me). Everything else, I'm well below intermediate - I have too much to learn - all I need are good/willing teachers.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| SnowHot wrote: |
| I remember watching video of you, |
I was young...
I needed the money...
She said that those scenes were required, or women in the US wouldn't buy it...
Anyway, how do you know it was me? I was only ever filmed from the chest down...
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Poster: A snowHead
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| SnowHot wrote: |
| I remember watching video of you, and aside from the fact that you appeared to be doing drills, I'd say you're upper intermediate, not beginner intermediate, AND if you relax a bit and let yourself forget about yourself you may even be advanced. |
......... yes but have you seen his skiing videos yet?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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DB, NOW THAT'S FUNNY!
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