Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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cc_7up, welcome to
cc_7up, welcome to the 21st century
cc_7up, welcome to short turny skis
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Monoskiing went so far out its back in You'll probably notice a lot more boarders on the slopes. Assuming you're only looking at piste skiing a modern ski around the 170-175 mark would probably do you fine.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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You'll need to Register first of course.
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One progression might have looked like this:
1994- 207cm
1996- 195cm
1998- 188cm
2000- 183cm
2003- 175cm
2006- 170cm
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Would those figures be generally for on piste skiing Comprex?
Could ski design evolution progress further or has it max'd out?
cc_7up
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cc_7up yes indeed, recreational mid-speed on-piste. That progression ignores side paths like ultrashort carvers and slalom skis, powder/big mountain skis, GS racers etc, and all of those are likely to converge with what is currently called an "all mountain" ski.
No way has ski design reached anything like a plateau.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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The quick answer to very long and complex answers:
1. Modern materials means that you can now achieve the same torsional stiffness (as the old long skis) with shorter length skis, and without making them longitudinally stiff as well.
2. Skiing was losing market share in a big way to snowboarding, so the modern ski as we know it (sidecut, parabola TM, carving) owes it's lineage to snowboard design.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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cc_7up, As everyone says, the ski has eveloved out of all recognition really. Now the ski does all the work, before, we did all the work - a slight simplification, but broadly accurate. Keep up with tthe lessons. It's also helpful (I think), if you get an instructor who teaches modern method but learnt on old skis and old school (what we call it now). Check out the current threads on Bend Ze Knees for more info.
Oh, and Welcome!
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Thanks everyone for your welcomes, sound comments and advice which i have taken on board.
It's great getting the ski bug again
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You know it makes sense.
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Welcome back to the world of skiing!!
I grew up skiing back in the early to mid 80's on 200+ GS race skis. I made the transition to shorter carvers around 97/98 and for me it was more of a revolution than evolution. Long narrow skis virtually disappeared overnight (or at least it seems that way to me) and for good reason too. The new fangled "carvers" were a lot nicer to ski and far more versatile. Perhaps the very early carvers lost out a little in straight line speed and stability, but that's not an issue today. If you were using 195s back in the day, 170s will be just fine now.
Also make sure you take a good look at modern boots. They're much more comfortable and flex more than equivalent offerings of the 80's. It's no longer essential to be in pain after the first 30 mins!
Bindings are about the only thing that haven't moved on that much IMHO, although they do look a lot more funky now and are often integrated into the ski
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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And did I mention that skiing off-piste in knee deep powder is now easy for any reasonably confident intermediate
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Poster: A snowHead
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Boots, boots, boots. Fit and adjusted for fore/aft and lateral balance (better, SZK?! ). Boots make far more effect than they ever have before since the skis are so much better than they ever have been, and balancing in the center of the ski is the "go" position.
I skied on 205s SLs most of the time back in the pencil ski days. Today, my skis are 162cm and 170cm. I'm 6' tall and weight 175lbs as a reasonably competent skier. Hopefully this is of some help...
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