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We are spending Christmas this year at Plan Peisey in one of Esprit's Chalets (Chalets des deux domaines). My wife and I are both boarders, the kids (boy aged 9 and girl aged 5) both ski. As the most experienced I do not have too much of a problem with the flat areas. However, my wife can't stand flat 'cat tracks' as she does not have the confidence to 'flat it' at full speed and so ends up having to scoot or worst of all walk when the going gets flat. Can anyone tell me the pistes (i.e the flat ones) to avoid in Les Arcs, Peisey Vallandry and La Plagne. Also the snowboard unfriendly lifts.
I have been in the Alps with a number of operators, how do Esprit compare with say Mark Warner or Crystal
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Hello. I can't help you with Les Arcs pistes, but I can warn you to be out by 31st December when my daughter and her school chums will be infesting Plan Peisey/Vallandry. Someone more useful will be along shortly.
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Rowley B QC, welcome to snowHeads!
I'm sure others will talk about LP (quite a few to avoid there). You might want to avoid Rhonaz in the Villaroger sector of Les Arcs; the final 100 metres of Cascades below Arc 1950 often needs poling on skis; the bottom part of Arandelieres is a bit flat but only needs walking if you are heading into really strong wind; and maybe a couple of sections of the Gollet towards Arc 1600. Other than that I think just about everywhere else is 'flat-spot' free. From what boarding friends have said, Les Arcs is very boarder-friendly.
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| rob@rar wrote: |
| You might want to avoid Rhonaz in the Villaroger sector of Les Arcs |
As I found out taking a few borders down there last season. They weren't impressed at all.
It's beyond the road at the bottom of the Cascades run just below 1950.
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Rowley B QC, OK LA Plagne area I know well ............Do not do Le Tunnel blue run from top of Roche de Mio or indeed the blue run that goes down towards Champagny from RdM either. Both have flat parts which I ALWAYS end up walking on and I don't mind a bit of speed on my board! Otherwise La Plagne will suit you both just fine.. Enjoy and you may bump into some 
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also avoid the Gollets run into arc 1600 if you are on a board - except wehen I am there as I think it is great fun skiing by
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Kieran, ..... 
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I was in plain norcroix last Jan with a mixed group, As a boarder you do have to watch the slopes, There are flats in the woods at lower levels on the les arcs side and on the le plange side watch the bit towards the tunnel, I have skated quite a few of the boarders through there.
But over all not a great deal of a problem.
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Most of Les Arcs is flat, so should be avoided by boarders, especially at the end of March when we will be in Villaroger
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Cheers for the info, even from those on two planks. By the way has anyone got any views on Esprit.
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You know it makes sense.
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Rowley B QC, Just a quick thought - probably should avoid 'Foret' - a gentle green run that meanders all the way down - the boarders in our party avoid it like the plague - unless its to cross it while playing in the trees.
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Rowley B QC,
we stayed with Esprit a few years ago in Peisey ( when scouting our new place in 1950) and enjoyed it greatly.
Re flats , the is a blue track which comes across back from 1800 (starts just over from the Transarc midstation) and crosses numerours reds. which is not the best way back from the Arcs mountains to PP for boarding - my suggestion would be to go higher, and come in over the top into the Peisey bowl. Grand Renard (although a slow old thing) will let you do this, or indeed taking the Transarc up to the top of the 2000 bowl, and coming back into 1800 side works well. If you get half way down the track and decide to bail , also can use Plan Bois, but its probably too late by then...
Lots of reds off to the right are tempting, but you can end up taking one too early and ending up in Vallandry rather than Peisey, then you have got a walk (or another lift - the Grizzly) I always find it depends on how late you are and how important it is you get back as to what mistakes you make!
As for La PLagne, don't, whatever you do, don't come around the bottom blue heading back direct to the Vanoise Express off the bottom of the Les Bauches red (le Moulin I think its called).
About 200 yds past the last chance lift (Bauches?) is a sign, which says..." flat for 1 km, may require poling". Requires bloody crampons if you ask me. If only they'd put that sign when you had a chance NOT to go that way. Still, you wouldn't be in France if the signage was useful eh?
And yes, as the other's say, Rhonaz, one for avoiding - to get into Vallandry if they are open, then take the Aigulle Rouge or Lanchettes out of 2000. Rhonaz is a back door when the higher lifts are closed, and is really good for those 'in the know', but it is a bug of a track if on a board. And I say that as a planker, who has seen the boarders struggling - they even have my sympathy on that one!
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Poster: A snowHead
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Rowley B QC, Most have been covered by others but avoid the long blue in Peisey Vallandry called le foret, it follows a road and is fairly flat for the whole run, fortunately there are lots of easy reds that cross it so it is escapable. I think they are reds as they actually have a downwards gradient to them rather than being a flat track!
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| And yes, as the other's say, Rhonaz, one for avoiding - to get into Vallandry : if they are open, then take the Aigulle Rouge or Lanchettes out of 2000. |
Of course I meant Villaroger, not Vallandry at this point... Oops. Sorry.
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FAQ
La Plagne has several flat areas notably the area around the lifts in Plagne centre.
Where is she staying?