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Thinking about getting some new skis (probably Mantras or Gotamas) and am considering the idea of having touring bindings on them.
Has anyone had any experience with them? The two concerns I have are: are they quite high, do they put you significantly higher than standard bindings? Do they favour release or retention - my salomon bindings (and rossi ones too) tend to absorb the shocks and not fall off, unlike my atomic ones which come off with a sharp knock even on high DIN settings.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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stuarth, Great binding, a little heavy and prone to breaks at the toe piece arround the walking mech. The beauty for me is the fact that you can seriously play withe DIN. Screwing off the spring cap and inserting different lengths (5mm-20mm) of correct diameter copper pipe, you can be sure those skis stay put on big reception.
Please note, this is dangerous and completly at your own risk!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| stuarth wrote: |
Thinking about getting some new skis (probably Mantras or Gotamas) and am considering the idea of having touring bindings on them.
Has anyone had any experience with them? The two concerns I have are: are they quite high, do they put you significantly higher than standard bindings? Do they favour release or retention - my salomon bindings (and rossi ones too) tend to absorb the shocks and not fall off, unlike my atomic ones which come off with a sharp knock even on high DIN settings. |
bear in mind that Naxo/Rottfella have two new bindings for next season: the nx02, nx11. The ride height of the Naxos gives better edging with wide all-mountain skis so can be seen as an advantage for difficult off-piste conditions. The nx02 replaces the buggy nx01 and comes with a damping unit.
The Fritschi Freeride Plus is probably the binding I would go for in this segment.
Of course the main disadvantage for touring is the weight of Naxo (and Fritschi) bindings.
Regarding release, I've not had a ski come off in the last couple of years so I'm not experienced enough to make any comments in this area.
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| SMALLZOOKEEPER wrote: |
| The beauty for me is the fact that you can seriously play withe DIN. Screwing off the spring cap and inserting different lengths (5mm-20mm) of correct diameter copper pipe, you can be sure those skis stay put on big reception. |
take care with this as the Naxo springs are a bit fragile and don't like being over tensioned.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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stuarth, I've got NX21s mounted on some Explosives, probably did around 15 days on them last year and I liked them. The Exploders had alpine binders on before, flat mounted with no risers so you could say I noticed the difference in height. It didn't really put me off, it just made 'carving' even more of a hoot.
I chose the Naxos over Freerides because I usually ski with my DIN between 13-14. (The NX21s go to 13, FR only 12). I skied the Naxos on 12 DIN and whilst I toned down my skiing a little bit, I still skied them quite hard and only had one pre-release.
They are heavy for a AT binding but IMHO very good middle ground. (If weight is an issue get some Dynafits.) They were a little sloppy but not *too* bad, certainly, again IMO, better than Freerides.
I really like the pivot point when skinning.
Thumbs up from me.
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| davidof wrote: |
| stuarth wrote: |
Thinking about getting some new skis (probably Mantras or Gotamas) and am considering the idea of having touring bindings on them.
Has anyone had any experience with them? The two concerns I have are: are they quite high, do they put you significantly higher than standard bindings? Do they favour release or retention - my salomon bindings (and rossi ones too) tend to absorb the shocks and not fall off, unlike my atomic ones which come off with a sharp knock even on high DIN settings. |
bear in mind that Naxo/Rottfella have two new bindings for next season: the nx02, nx11. The ride height of the Naxos gives better edging with wide all-mountain skis so can be seen as an advantage for difficult off-piste conditions. The nx02 replaces the buggy nx01 and comes with a damping unit.
The Fritschi Freeride Plus is probably the binding I would go for in this segment.
Of course the main disadvantage for touring is the weight of Naxo (and Fritschi) bindings.
Regarding release, I've not had a ski come off in the last couple of years so I'm not experienced enough to make any comments in this area. |
I tend to give my bindings quite a hard time - I'm a bit crazy in the head and like jumping off stuff and doing big fast turns in chopped up snow so I need something pretty solid and the Fritschi freeride and nx01 don't seem beefy enough hence the nx21 thoughts. I'm in two minds about the height thing -my atomics have a carve plate which is great for racing, but my fatter skis (Karmas) don't and I prefer that for tricky steeps because I feel I can edge the skis with more subtlety (probaly just me being too crude with edging!)
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| stuarth wrote: |
the Fritschi freeride and nx01 don't seem beefy enough hence the nx21 thoughts. |
You should look at the Freeride Plus binding
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I've used Fritschi Freerides for a few years now and find them to be pretty good. I'm big (90+kgs) and ski reasonably hard and haven't had problems with them breaking, pre-releasing etc. They probably aren't the think for jumping off stuff but you're better off with proper alpine bindings for that
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stuarth, Apparently, our shop sends back more retuns of Fritchi then the rest of France put together. This is not bragging, what i mean is that we have alot of big skiers here, they tour, they tour to find the best pitch to jump and jump they do. Naxo, Fritchi will break. They have more mobile parts, therefore more points of failure. Are you going to jump? Do you really need a touring binding? Yes and Yes? Bite the bullit and find a friendly ski tech like ours that has 100's of spares and replacement pieces. Buy him beer regularly and you can smash 'em up as often as you like!
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). Thats why with touring bindings that are starting to look like they might take a hammering I'm interesed in that route again.
