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I'll be doing a big chunk of my BASI L1 shadowing hours on a small outdoor dry slope (Glenmore Lodge). It'll be with beginners and it's a gentle slope so I'm not looking for speed, but when I was at that slope earlier this year there was so much friction on my skis that going up the tow it felt like my arms were going to come off. Would a dry slope specific wax make a noticeable difference? I normally use Data Universal wax.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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The mushette used to use DataWax Polar X when she was racing.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Maplus arctic base, don't scrape it.
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My kids have raced dryslope for over a decade. No "traditional" wax makes much of a difference. Certainly not compared to either "gloop" (usually a homebrew concoction of shower gel/hair conditioner type products), or cheap furniture polish (we found Aldi was very effective). Only lasts a run or 2 at most though.
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The hardest you can get followed by silicone spray then some homegrown detergent / shampoo concoction applied with a foaming sprayer was the choice when my kids raced (30 years ago but I don't think much has changed. If you aren't actually racing hard wax, no need to scrape as the first run up the lift removes the excess. We also used to have mats impregnated with wax to run the skis over at the top of the slope on training nights.
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@Valkyrie, It depends on who you are teaching, but if it's beginners, just use the slopes rental skis..
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@ski, I’ll be using my wife’s old skis. They’re a fair bit shorter and softer than my own piste skis and I’m not worried about damaging them.
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A door mat spread with industrial floor polish cut with fairy liquid was pretty deadly at the races!
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On a short dry ski slope, so not generating much speed and heat under the bases, and teaching mostly beginnerish stuff, we just rub a cheap Tesco basics candle on the bases. Works a treat on the bottom of the donuts on a slow day too!
Sorry to be so untechnical...
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Data Polar X.
Though I would look at some of the cheaper suggestions above. Dry slope wax does seem to rub off within 2 runs. No need to brush unlike snow! Regular hot waxing (every session) goes a long way to protect against heat burn if using your own kit.
https://www.datawax.com/ski-snowboard/polar-x-dry-slope-wax
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No need to brush unlike snow!
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Yes, scrape but don't bother brushing.
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This spray on stuff is quite popular with the racing kids as well between runs.
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You know it makes sense.
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I dont think any wax is any use.
I've used pipe joint lubricant and cable pulling lubricant
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Baron von chippy wrote: |
cable pulling lubricant |
This was banned when I was marshalling races up until a few years ago - I'd be surprised if that's changed.
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Poster: A snowHead
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snowdave wrote: |
Baron von chippy wrote: |
cable pulling lubricant |
This was banned when I was marshalling races up until a few years ago - I'd be surprised if that's changed. |
it's being used at the top now. kids all painting it on
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Baron von chippy wrote: |
snowdave wrote: |
Baron von chippy wrote: |
cable pulling lubricant |
This was banned when I was marshalling races up until a few years ago - I'd be surprised if that's changed. |
it's being used at the top now. kids all painting it on |
Interesting - I wonder if the formulation has changed to make it more eco-friendly? Or if the slopes have just given up trying to work out what's in the random bottles of homemade gloop.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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snowdave wrote: |
Baron von chippy wrote: |
snowdave wrote: |
Baron von chippy wrote: |
cable pulling lubricant |
This was banned when I was marshalling races up until a few years ago - I'd be surprised if that's changed. |
it's being used at the top now. kids all painting it on |
Interesting - I wonder if the formulation has changed to make it more eco-friendly? Or if the slopes have just given up trying to work out what's in the random bottles of homemade gloop. |
yes this is the clear stuff. There's the yellow version but with some different chemicals in it, far more toxic.
The pipe lube is better I think. It's able to be used with drinking water pipes
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Terry Bartlett sells the clear stuff. I know several slopes banned the coloured.
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Ideal Clear Glide is one of the best lubricants to put on the bases of your skis at the start of an artificial plastic slope race. This will give you great acceleration out of the start and is one of the most popular ski lubricants. Clear glide is one of the only lubricants that you are able to use on any artificial slope, there are no bans at present. |
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For instructing on the dry slope we used Datawax Polar X. Apply it, don't scrape, but then buff it up till shiny. Did that probably every four or five sessions on our "instructing skis" . Personal skiing skis every one or two sessions, and if training with gates every session.
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Having trained a bit on dryslope I always viewed the dry slope wax (which is rock hard), as a protective layer and as the others have said above various loops and bottles of Mr Sheen on top to try and minimise the burning, or just ski when it's raining.... At least you don't get that burning plastic smell then! I used to also have specific dry slope skis (never new....) that I knew would get trashed (you can then also move to a shorter length than you would consider on snow. Also you will get lots of edge sharpening practice.....
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