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Japan ski season with kids

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Hi all.

We're a family of riders and skiers. All high level and pow lovers.
We're considering a season in Japan and would love some suggestions on accommodation, best choices for location, gera and how to get about.
We've looked at shiga kogen/ Otaru / Sapporo / Asahikawa in Hokkaido and we're looking for the most cost effective way to do it.

We have kids ages 7, 9 and 13 . We've done 6 years of seasons in Austria and a season in France with kids, and previously lived in chamonix.

Obviously not looking for a golden solution but certainly hope there is a way to make this amazing opportunity less of a money pit.

Would love advice, suggestions, thoughts, experienced opinions Eh oh!
Biggest questions, buy gear in Japan? Or bring 5 boards, boots, skis for the tall other half (2m10)?
Find a long term accommodation and rent a car and drive about? Or get places in various areas?
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Outside the obvious areas the accommodation and food is really cheap. I think your Asshikawa / Otaru plan is a good one. You’d definitely want a car so perhaps buy a 2nd hand car and sell it when you leave? Maybe you can split the accom in 2 to make it easier to try out the resorts on both sides of the island. Snowboarding is massive in JP so you should be able to get good kit there
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Thanks BobinCH - I hadn't thought about buying a car - it might work out cheaper overall - but a lot more hassle.
I noticed you've been a number of times yourself in the older threads - Would you suggest the extra expense of trying to hit Honshu would be worth it or just stick to Hokkaido.

When adding up accommodation, car, and day passes it looks to be about 4 times more expensive than a season in Europe for us. It's definitely hard to know if it would be worth it with kids of this age - and the relative less extreme skiing we'll end up doing and hassles involved with carting them about...........
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@Powderpete, Hokkaido could be cold and windy, plan accordingly
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AnnaGasser wrote:
Thanks BobinCH - I hadn't thought about buying a car - it might work out cheaper overall - but a lot more hassle.
I noticed you've been a number of times yourself in the older threads - Would you suggest the extra expense of trying to hit Honshu would be worth it or just stick to Hokkaido.

When adding up accommodation, car, and day passes it looks to be about 4 times more expensive than a season in Europe for us. It's definitely hard to know if it would be worth it with kids of this age - and the relative less extreme skiing we'll end up doing and hassles involved with carting them about...........


I can’t believe it’s 4 times more expensive than Europe Shocked Shocked Shocked

The only relatively expensive thing was the rental car at approx $100 per day for an X-Trail. If you were going for 3 or 4 months I would just buy one and sell it at the end. Any garage should do this.

Aren’t there season passes for the Otaru / Asahikawa resorts? The day passes were cheap but I can see how they could rack up if you’re buying 100 of them. Food and accommodation was super cheap. We paid less than $1 for a coffee in 7-11 and you could get a meal out for $10. My room at Hostel K in Asahidake was less than $30 and there was a free Onsen and kitchen. I loved it there and there are others I believe. With a car you must be able find cheap lodging on airbnb or via local agents?

Re Honshu I’ve been to Hakuba, Myoko and Tanigawadake and I’d say all are worth visiting. Tanigawadake has steep terrain and the best freeriding but the other 2 are much bigger with multiple resorts to choose from.

I love Japan and would imagine it would be a fabulous experience for a family.

Ps if you are into ski touring and can ditch the kids that opens up tons of options, and you can buy single uplifts eg at Asahidake, find a nice pitch that doesn’t lead back to the lift, make your skin track and just lap fresh pow all day.
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We have kids ages 7, 9 and 13 . We've done 6 years of seasons in Austria and a season in France with kids, and previously lived in chamonix.


Education implications for children doing a season in Japan?

Can't comment on the rest - but it looks great fun. Good luck.
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@Powderpete,
Try asking on ski.com.au - plenty on there ski Japan regularly.
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We managed to do the Europe seasons in a motorhome and self catering - hence the reasons the prices were kept down.
The Kids are being home schooled at the moment - with online lessons to allow for a family gap year and travel experiences.

Thanks for the replies - and have asked on ski.com.au also - thanks.

The reason for the day passes is to have the variety of different resorts with them being a relatively small size and would love to do the touring - but with a lack of equipment and experience I would have to save it for another time - and the husbands tall size and clown feet renting equipment would probably be a nightmare.
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AnnaGasser wrote:
would love to do the touring - but with a lack of equipment and experience I would have to save it for another time - and the husbands tall size and clown feet renting equipment would probably be a nightmare.


It’s worth the investment I can assure you. This was a touring day from Furano
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AnnaGasser wrote:
Thanks BobinCH - I hadn't thought about buying a car - it might work out cheaper overall - but a lot more hassle.
I noticed you've been a number of times yourself in the older threads -
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Would you suggest the extra expense of trying to hit Honshu would be worth it or just stick to Hokkaido.
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When adding up accommodation, car, and day passes it looks to be about 4 times more expensive than a season in Europe for us. It's definitely hard to know if it would be worth it with kids of this age - and the relative less extreme skiing we'll end up doing and hassles involved with carting them about...........


My two cents (been three times, but just a new member here): one island per visit unless you have a couple of months! Otherwise just too much time spent travelling and not enough skiing/boarding. Hokkaido is wonderful skiing and usually better snow than Honshu but often colder/stormier. The only true downsides to Hokkaido are that a) it usually takes an extra flight and b) it was only developed about 150 years ago, with a lot of investment by the Russians, and so the infrastructure looks ... Russian. Big surprise on our second trip! The towns are very "utilitarian", almost ugly, and not the beautiful, wooden traditional buildings, houses, shrines etc. you imagine when you think of Japan. If the authentic aesthetic is an important part of your trip, then go to Honshu instead. The Hakuba area is most expensive/busy but just a bit further north in the Japanese Alps there are much more affordable areas: Myoko, Minakami, and even further north (not the Alps, a different range) are Geto and Appi Kogen.
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I've never been to Japan to ski, but after reading the comments here, I might give it a try—if I can get in, of course. But if I ever go, what is the best place to start for a ride?
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