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I was addressed this question by a skiing mate.
His 5 years old daughter is allergic to dairy products. He said she is not allergic to touch/smell, but eating/drinking them might cause a life threatening reaction.
He is looking for next season for a ski resort rather close to a hospital in case it might be needed, although they don't plan to eat outside and they always carry a few Epipen with them.
He is considering skiing in Marilleva/Madona - contacted the Valli del Noce Hospital in Cles, which is 15 km away from the village of Mal'e where he plans to AirBnB.
Mal'e should be about 11 minutes driving distance from Marilleva and a Cles hospital representant told him they also have emergency helicopter service if needed.
Any other ideas? Brunneck/Innsbruck/Bourg St Maurice as a medical center?
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Davos.
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Davos was my thought too, a town big enough to have its own hospital plus plenty of skiing.
I don't know whether Aosta has a hospital - it is the bottom of the gondola from Pila - but it is the most likely location in the Aosta valley for one.
In the Arve valley in France, Sallanches has the local hospital, just down the hill from Combloux and Megeve and not that far from St Gervais. And if you are talking helicopters, close to Flaine.
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Many thanks, will forward it.
I have also found one in St Johann in Tirol, good as a skiing base or 13 min. driving distance from Kitz or from Ellmau
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District hospital in St. Johann in Tirol
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Public hospital in the centre of Schladming
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I don't know whether Aosta has a hospital - it is the bottom of the gondola from Pila - but it is the most likely location in the Aosta valley for one.
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Yes there is a hospital in Aosta, complete with Emergency Department. Also served by the helicopter rescue services from most of the valley, including Cervinia.
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Pretty sure Briancon has a hospital. Also Chamonix, though the A&E at Chamonix is only open from 08:00 to 20:00
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Zell am See has a big modern hospital next to the lake. 10 minutes from the main lifts by road - even quicker by helicopter. The helicopters have doctors on board and also cover Saalbach-Hinterglemm (there's one based in Hinterglemm all winter and a second one in peak weeks) and flight time to Zell am See is probably no more than 10 minutes. By road it's 15 km from Saalbach and of course, there are emergency ambulances based in the valley.
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All the towns along the Inn valley have hospitals (multiple ones in Innsbruck) so Landeck, Imst, Jenbach, Wörgl & Kufstein amongst others. Pretty sure Kitzbühel has one. Any largish ski resort will have a fully equipped clinic eg St Anton, Mayrhofen which would work for emergency situations. Some of the clinics could be private so not take GHICs.
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Kitzbühel is served by the district hospital in St. Johann in Tirol, which is just a few km from Kitzbühel. This hospital also serves Fieberbrunn, so the Ski Circus is covered by two hospitals - Zell am See on the Salzburgerland side, and St. Johann in Tirol on the Tirol side of the ski area.
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In that sort of situation I'd prefer to be within striking distance of a hospital where I could have some sort of go at speaking the language. Not for the essentials so much as for just the general environment. Even getting drinks and snacks from a machine. It would affect my choice of country/resort. My son was very glad of speaking German when he landed in hospital in Innsbruck after a (completely stupid, mindless, typical) tobogganing accident.
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Ok I’m not answering the question, but does lactose intolerance have to be declared to the insurance?
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You know it makes sense.
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Stubaital. Near the Innsbruck Hospital (probably one of the bests in the country)
Generally, if there is an emergency they will send a heli.
However allergie schocks, it is not a problem at all for almost every hospital
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@Origen, English is widely spoken in Austrian hospitals, especially among doctors/surgeons/other specialists, many of whom have worked or studied in English-speaking countries. Not speaking German should not be a concern, if you can speak English.
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Les Arcs is just above Bourg St Maurice, La Rosiere is just a little further away. The hospital staff at BSM speak good english
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English is widely spoken in Austrian hospitals
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Yes, I realise that. But when I spent a few days in Vienna a couple of years ago I was glad of even my O level German, more than once. If I had to sit around in a hospital, waiting for someone/something (there's a lot of waiting, often) I'd be glad to be able to have some sort of conversation with the people around me. I could do that in French, but not in German. I don't like not being able even to order a cup of coffee without presuming that other people speak English. I have taken people in various sorts of minor distress to doctors, dentists and Albertville Hospital and being able to speak a bit of French (which none of the "patients" could) was a great help.
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Many thanks for the detailed info, I have forwarded all the recommandations to the father.
Now it will be much easier to plan wisely.
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Had to check the first post to see if it was April 1st.
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@jimmjimm, why? It's not an unreasonable question relating to a child's health.
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@jimmjimm, it was for real.
Sometimes people who ski would rather take their family with them.
And sometimes they have kids, kids who might suffer from different food allergies.
Those kids go to school and are invited to different celebrations, they are very careful with what they are eating and where. An Epi-Pen is always in reach. Life should not be a prison.
Now it would be dangerous for them to eat outside because of possible food cross-contamination, but bad things/human errors might still happen even at home. And that's why the parents want to know a serious medical center is within reach.
They researched and found a good solution close to Marileva, almost booked the flights and the airBnB. Now they are confused since many SHs gave them plenty of good other solutions too.
That's the problem with SH. Too many good options to choose from, only one life to ski
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@jimmjimm, it was for real.
Sometimes people who ski would rather take their family with them.
And sometimes they have kids, kids who might suffer from different food allergies.
Those kids go to school and are invited to different celebrations, they are very careful with what they are eating and where. An Epi-Pen is always in reach. Life should not be a prison.
Now it would be dangerous for them to eat outside because of possible food cross-contamination, but bad things/human errors might still happen even at home. And that's why the parents want to know a serious medical center is within reach.
They researched and found a good solution close to Marileva, almost booked the flights and the airBnB. Now they are confused since many SHs gave them plenty of good other solutions too.
That's the problem with SH. Too many good options to choose from, only one life to ski |
My son is anaphylactic (nuts). Carries epipens at all times and we/he have used them. When he was 5 or 6 before we knew he was anaphylactic he went to A&E in an ambulance.
It is a serious business.
THat said, the treatment is adrenaline (epipens but also conventional injections carried by any ambulance) and steroids. I don't think close proximity to a major hospital is that important. I'd be focused on a good (air) ambulance service - you need to stabilise the patient at the scene. Typical ski resort GP clinic would also have the tools available.
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Just out of interest the number of allergies has gone up in the population with time. However the number of deaths has been declining despite serious allergies being on the rise. Probably Eli pens.
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@drporat, yeah, I had to think a bit too. But was there not a case of a serious reaction on a plane from a pack of peanuts some seat rows away?
If being near a trauma center is reassuring, reassure away.
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@under a new name, definitely.
And this is why the father mentioned that only by ingestion there's a serious reaction in his daughter's case.
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@drporat, yeah, I had to think a bit too. But was there not a case of a serious reaction on a plane from a pack of peanuts some seat rows away?
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Reassurance is great but please realise that the patient will need to be stabilised at the scene/in the ambulance. They may need to go to hospital but the crucial treatment is before that anyway.
The really sad case of the teenager who died on a plane to France after eating a Pret sandwich that was mislabelled makes the point. She had two epipens with her (or one and the crew had one). She needed a third and was dead by the time the plane could make an emergency landing.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I would expect that the medical facilities in a ski resort are set up to deal with emergencies caused by skiing or snowboarding, the whole chain of getting help may be completely different outside daytime hours and an air ambulance may not be available either.
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@rjs, exactly - a local orthopedic clinic working from 9 AM to 20 is not what they hope for, and folks here had several recommandations of local/regional hospitals that would satisfy concerned parents.
They don't take chances with potentially mislabeled products and never eat outside with their daughter nor buy diary products.
Each family member carry an Epi Pen with him at all times.
But I can easily understand their stress and need to have a serious response team in their proximity
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You know it makes sense.
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If you were to stay in Aosta there is a hospital there, and I know that in Pila (reached by cablecar) there’s a trauma centre just metres from the piste (bottom of Grimod). Then you’d have medical help both on piste and in the evening back at base. Trauma centre next to piste also has helicopter pad for transfers to Aosta
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Be careful if visiting France, a lot of drugs are in short supply. For example it is very difficult getting Ventolin at the moment for some unknown reason and hospitals often require that you bring your own drugs. At least bring sufficient supply from the UK when you visit.
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