Poster: A snowHead
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You know the score.
Ski all day, party all night.
You cook sometimes, and clean up a fair bit, designated driver sometimes
Trustworthy volunteers can pm me
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Does the role come with a supply if popcorn because I think I'm about to need some.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Has he got a cellar with all the previous slaves in it?
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Has this ever worked?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Zzzzz
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adithorp wrote: |
Does the role come with a supply if popcorn because I think I'm about to need some. |
I'm nipping to the shop for some, I'll grab you a bag
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Bit late with the seasonal troll. Anyone any goodand with the necessary visas is likely to have made plans already.
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Still never got this yearly post. Don’t know if it’s genuine, a wind up, or admin just having a yearly laugh to see who bites
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the community seems skeptical:)
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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nixmap wrote: |
You know the score.
Ski all day, party all night.
You cook sometimes, and clean up a fair bit, designated driver sometimes
Trustworthy volunteers can pm me |
sounds like a wedding proposal. Tried russian brides?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@Gored,
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It's probably the first time gored has seen this.
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You know it makes sense.
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davidof wrote: |
Has he got a cellar with all the previous slaves in it? |
I’m always mildly surprised that previous unpaid workers haven’t endorsed this “opportunity” (or slated it)….maybe you’re right. Or maybe there’s a water tight confidentiality agreement. One mildly wonders why, if that’s the case…
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@Cacciatore, it is certainly an odd advert, I wonder exactly what he's asking for really. It is not very appealing.
His original TGR post was more informative. Maybe he doesn't need to bother saying any more these days?
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Whats the deal?. Nothings ever for free.
True, but if you Like the idea of skiing the Swiss Alps. You might find this interesting.
If you ve looked at the ads for working Europe. you'll figure out you wont get much skiing done.
This is something different.
Our deal is this , work for 2.5 days a week play the rest its, that simple.
We are a british family of 4 living in switzerland, we have a private luxury chalet that we use on the weekends and swiss school holidays.
We would like to find a chalet helper/ chalet couple to look after it (and us) for the winter season, not just as house keepers but people who love to ski as well.
What that means is you work on weekends then get to ski or do your own thing for the other 5 days of the week of the week.
Typically we would arrive most weekends on a friday night, and leave Sunday evening. We would expect you to do regular household chores, cooking, cleaning, occasional child minding and pre grommit teaching, and other helpful activities ensuring our stress free weekend. In return you get a whole week to do what you like. (Ski).
Occasionally we may have house guests, and school holidays mean we would stay for longer periods which is an extra work load, but not a disaster.
The chalet is in a well known resort in central Switzerland. Local Skiing (70 km sq) is literaly 50 yards from your door. Other famous ski areas such as Engleberg, Wengen, Grindlewald, Murren , Gstaad, Andermatt,Adelboden are within easy reach.
Accomodation is inside the chalet in a fully segregated 2.5 room appartment.
and at your disposal . During the week of course you can use the full facilities of this luxury chalet.
We like to hear from genuine applicants preferably a couple, naturally you should be capable of doing all tasks above without difficulty, or attitude.
What you do in your own time up to you of course, |
Last edited by Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name: on Mon 24-10-22 11:21; edited 1 time in total
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Poster: A snowHead
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Considering how many wind-up merchants populate the forum I’m surprised no-one has expressed a (fake) interest, strung it along for a bit and then reported back on what the story is.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I can't quite envisage a ski resort of 70 square km; they're not usually measured in that way.
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@pam w, 27 square miles and a dozen or so rectangular viennetta blocks. Does that help?
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I can't quite envisage a ski resort of 70 square km; they're not usually measured in that way.
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American resorts often measure their area, since they have well defined boundaries, and so just refer to the total skiable area within the boundaries as it's all patrolled (even if not groomed or marked). Never seen a European resort refer to an area of piste though.
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zaphod424 wrote: |
Never seen a European resort refer to an area of piste though. |
I spent 30 seconds looking and found this
https://www.valdisere.fr/mon-village/decouvrir-le-village/bienvenue-a-val-disere/
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L’espace Val d'Isère-Tignes en chiffres :
Domaine skiable situé sur les communes de Val d’Isère & Tignes.
10 000 hectares de pistes balisées.
2 glaciers : le Pissaillas (Val d’Isère) et la Grande Motte (Tignes) |
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10 000 hectares de pistes balisées
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But that's the area of the pistes, not the area of the entire mountainside including public toilets and roads.
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pam w wrote: |
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10 000 hectares de pistes balisées
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But that's the area of the pistes, not the area of the entire mountainside including public toilets and roads. |
Ok I see.
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Cacciatore wrote: |
davidof wrote: |
Has he got a cellar with all the previous slaves in it? |
I’m always mildly surprised that previous unpaid workers haven’t endorsed this “opportunity” (or slated it)….maybe you’re right. Or maybe there’s a water tight confidentiality agreement. One mildly wonders why, if that’s the case… |
There have been, short posts from volunteers, both here and TGR; however, they were missed amongst all the noise.
Mostly people understand that it is not in our shared interests to open themselves up to questions on a forum with a crowd like this one.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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skithesteelstealtheski wrote: |
the community seems skeptical:) |
Amongst other, less affable, adjectives you could easily apply.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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nixmap wrote: |
Cacciatore wrote: |
davidof wrote: |
Has he got a cellar with all the previous slaves in it? |
I’m always mildly surprised that previous unpaid workers haven’t endorsed this “opportunity” (or slated it)….maybe you’re right. Or maybe there’s a water tight confidentiality agreement. One mildly wonders why, if that’s the case… |
There have been, short posts from volunteers, both here and TGR; however, they were missed amongst all the noise.
Mostly people understand that it is not in our shared interests to open themselves up to questions on a forum with a crowd like this one. |
So rather than linking them you prefer to wrap it up as a riddle in an enigma in what looks like a 14 year power trip?
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Mostly people understand that it is not in our shared interests to open themselves up to questions on a forum with a crowd like this one
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So why bother?
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You know it makes sense.
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Dave of the Marmottes wrote: |
nixmap wrote: |
Cacciatore wrote: |
davidof wrote: |
Has he got a cellar with all the previous slaves in it? |
I’m always mildly surprised that previous unpaid workers haven’t endorsed this “opportunity” (or slated it)….maybe you’re right. Or maybe there’s a water tight confidentiality agreement. One mildly wonders why, if that’s the case… |
There have been, short posts from volunteers, both here and TGR; however, they were missed amongst all the noise.
Mostly people understand that it is not in our shared interests to open themselves up to questions on a forum with a crowd like this one. |
So rather than linking them you prefer to wrap it up as a riddle in an enigma in what looks like a 14 year power trip? |
The usual obfuscation
Personally, were I to be seeking unpaid “volunteers”, I’d probably seek agreement from previous successful applicants for their testimony. Certainly, that would engender a much greater positive reaction for nixmap than his/her rather opaque approach.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I just don't 'get' his approach, but I presume he's had the odd successful applicant from here - otherwise why would he come back? - and there must therefore be some snowHeads of similar mindset, for whom the job is right and the weird secrecy is immaterial.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Perhaps he doesn't want his first wife to know he has the chalet?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I don't think there's any mystery at all. At least 5 days person-days of work a week (2 people for 2.5 days) and an unspecified lot more in school holidays. Shopping and preparation before their visits, and clearing up afterwards, deep cleaning all those rooms, including the kitchen and lots of bathrooms, would be additional to that. It's surely the equivalent of a pretty full time job for one person? And all for no money - just accommodation provided.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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naturally you should be capable of doing all tasks above without difficulty, or attitude
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Good luck with that...
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pam w wrote: |
I don't think there's any mystery at all. At least 5 days person-days of work a week (2 people for 2.5 days) and an unspecified lot more in school holidays. Shopping and preparation before their visits, and clearing up afterwards, deep cleaning all those rooms, including the kitchen and lots of bathrooms, would be additional to that. It's surely the equivalent of a pretty full time job for one person? And all for no money - just accommodation provided. |
Accom. in a Swiss ski resort it has to be said. Maybe there is money to be made subletting the chalet when the owners are not there? Set for Christmas movies, pron films etc? Could make quite a nice screenplay for a comedy.
Anyway you have to decided whether a 2.5 days / week job in a Swiss ski resort would cover accommodation to be better off? (ok post Brexit there is an issue with work permits too but also the 90 days rule for nixmap's "job").
The minimum wage in Geneva is 4368 francs for a 42 hour week. I dunno what a ski resort would have to pay.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Hurtle wrote: |
I just don't 'get' his approach, but I presume he's had the odd successful applicant from here - otherwise why would he come back? - and there must therefore be some snowHeads of similar mindset, for whom the job is right and the weird secrecy is immaterial. |
It’s no secret he also does the same at TGR. So it wouldn’t surprise me he does it in other (non-English) forums too. Cast the net wide. It’s reasonable to catch a few interests. But clearly never ideal for either party. Hence the secrecy of previous “volunteers”.
He’s clearly willing to tolerate unreliable “volunteers”. And I’m sure his “volunteers” are even more willing to tolerate less than ideal arrangements. After all, they could always walk away if things don’t work out.
It’s obviously an informal arrangement. So whoever does the bargaining the best gets closer to what they want.
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I don't get what the issue is - everyone seems to have an issue with the post- but is it actually such a terrible deal? For the right person this may not be too bad - hell - if you can remote work, in your 20s, this is nearly ideal all things considered - especially for Americans looking to spend a winter away. If the OP wants privacy, for whatever reason, they may ask for an NDA signed prior to any discussions which is probably why the details are scant - respect to them for wanting to maintain their privacy.
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@extremerob, I doubt many have the energy to re-rehearse the arguments. You'll find them on old threads.
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@extremerob, Legality of being in CH, permission to work, liability/insurance issues etc. I think by now the kids are probably grown up so less in loco parentis type risk but then bringing their young adult mates when mum & dad aren't there?
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Hurtle wrote: |
@extremerob, I doubt many have the energy to re-rehearse the arguments. You'll find them on old threads. |
I have seen the previous threads - though not followed religiously
Dave of the Marmottes wrote: |
@extremerob, Legality of being in CH, permission to work, liability/insurance issues etc. I think by now the kids are probably grown up so less in loco parentis type risk but then bringing their young adult mates when mum & dad aren't there? |
Assuming the permission to work/legal status is resolved - I think this works for certain people - again I can imagine a 20 year old that may have some form of remote working / possible influencer trying to get started etc. or a GAP Yeah type - may say free accommodation for the season, food, ski pass, access to a luxury chalet and all the amenities for the tradeoff of having to clean/cook for lets say 50% (being conservative) on average isn't that bad of a deal.
What is the alternative work as a chalet boy/girl or any other seasonal job - for low pay and also 50% skiing. You aren't going to save on these sort of jobs - and who knows you make get a nice thank-you envelope at the end of the OPs offer?
The other thing is you may also have the opportunity to rub shoulders with people in a certain industry that will pay immeasurably in your career development.
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@davidof, Min wage how much ? 4368sfr for 42 hour week ? Presume that’s a month ? Just seen it’s 24swiss an hour in 2023
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