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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Guessing the actual frame is ok? If so I would go to a haberdashery and pick up some foam (as close a match as you can) and lining cloth, strip the old stuff off, template up the new stuff and glue it all together! Probably cost £30 max all in.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I have used double sided tape (carpet tape from Screwfix) to repair delaminated goggle foam in the past - but I suspect that it's manufactured using a spray contact adhesive.
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Not many easily available adhesives will stick to the type of plastic used in goggles, and even some that do don't behave well with low temperature and flexing. I am currently trying Gorilla clear double sided mounting tape. Test after a couple of days in the freezer seems good, will test in the real world at the EOSB.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Bit of PVA on both sides and close it up. Just put it so the surfaces are in contact and not compressing the foam too much while the glue goes off - should hold ok. I fixed a helmet liner in a similar way.
If not then you've not lost anything. Just take the lenses out before you do any glueing.
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“Google lens” in the title led me to wonder what this thread was going to be about. Not as interesting as I hoped, TBH 
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@kitenski, I would avoid using super glue as apparently this damages foam, apparently it's not uncommon for glues to do this to foam. There are special foam glues / cures for this, some specifically made by Smith. Goggle foam repair guides usually recommend a specific one.
Funnily you're the 3rd person in the last month here (me included) with a very similar issue with this exact set of goggles....
Smith have ignored me about replacing my frame for weeks now!
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@Ruswit, ours did the same, albeit after 11 years of fairly heavy use...
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@Ruswit, interesting cheers, I think with the sales starting I'm going to end up buying new which I was trying to avoid!
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TL;DR use a glue that works with foam.
The one in the video isn't available in Sweden so I've tried with Stormsure, which is very sticky black glue normally used to fix wellies, leaking inflatables etc.
First two pics show the damage (2nd and 3rd layers of foam separating).
Next two are the repair.
Not perfect, but definitely stuck back down again. The glue isn't fully dry yet, I'll try tomorrow to see how comfortable (or not) they are.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@mgrolf, I guess the key question is does the glue set hard and uncomfortable vs soft like the original foam.
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@kitenski, absolutely. The answer is, of course, somewhere in between! I can definitely feel the glue with my fingers, but it's not obvious when I wear the goggles. I don't think it would work so well where's there's more pressure, e.g. around my nose. My season's finished now, so it will be a while before I can test them properly, but I'm cautiously optimistic.
If the foam had split away from the frame, I'm sure I wouldn't notice the glue. I can't be sure that it would stick, but Stormsure sticks to most flexible plastics.
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You know it makes sense.
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@mgrolf, thanks
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I used shoe glue on goggles that were much worse, just use as little as possible as you don't get a second chance one you place it on the goggles. Unfortunately I have about 5 different lenses for my googles and mine has a fan which I absolutely love. They don't make goggles with fans anymore.
BTW, I called Smith about the foam and they don't have it separately.
Also there is a good chance your Smith goggles have a lifetime warranty. I was able to collect years ago on it, but since they didn't make my model anymore they gave me credit if I bought from their web site. Worth a try when the day comes.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@skimachine, smith website said 2 year warranty when I checked? Did they used to do lifetime?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@kitenski, @skimachine, also it says the warranty is only available in the US and maybe Canada - no European countries are listed when you try and submit a claim.
Did you have luck doing it outside of the US or are you based there?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Sorry about that. I am in the USA. You should contact them anyway as back when you bought your goggles that stipulation may not have been in place. Did you buy them in the US or Canada by any chance?
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Ah how interesting, I've had this exact problem with this exact model of goggles this month too.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Just seen this thread after I answered @mgrolf on https://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=168900
I was in the same situation earlier this year with the Smith I/OX goggles I'd passed on to my son.
I ended up buying the Bob Smith Foam Cure glue that @Ruswit mentions above and finding some appropriately coloured packing foam. The foam was about 3x thicker than I needed so I cut it down with an electric carving knife. Quality bodge...
Anyway, I gently removed the old foam, stuck the new foam on and then cut it to shape after it set. I then stuck the grey/beige material - the bit that's in contact with your skin - to the foam to finish off. The result wasn't too bad but because I'd applied more glue by hand than any machine would ever do, the material's a bit stiffer than it ideally would be but at least it's breathed a few more years of life into the goggles.
I'd thought about using PVA or Copydex but as they're water-based I wary that it wouldn't hold together given the conditions that you can end up skiing in.
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@skimachine, I did buy them from a US retailer on ebay (not used), but smith have not responded to me once in around 3 weeks of chasing them sadly.
@jd_evans, Do you remember where you got the cure from? Their website is showing no stock, but good to know it works!
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a reply from Smith
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Thank you for contacting us, we are sorry for the inconvenience.
We inform you that the inner foam is not supplied as a spare part.
We invite you to contact the retaoòer where you first purchased the goggles.
They will check the warranty and assist you accordingly. |
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@kitenski, ah…my experience entirely.
Scott googles that just drew in moisture between the lenses ALL the time - ‘contact the retailer’
Smith goggles needing new foam - ‘contact the retailer’
Oakley with sad elastic - ‘contact the retailer’
Etc etc
I know that they have a load of ‘just riding along and it broke’ freeloaders contacting them but it is frustrating.
What they mean is …
‘Buy some new goggles and then we make more money, don’t you know how modern capitalism works?’
meanwhile I steadfastly find ways of fixing things….
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@valais2, indeed, I've gone and bought a pair of Panda Optics goggles, lifetime warranty excluding wear and tear.
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@kitenski, I have also have noted that if you have at least two pairs of goggles on the go then the lifetime of each seems be disproportionately extended - maybe because they are not getting absolutely continuously hammered.
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You know it makes sense.
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| kitenski wrote: |
| @valais2, indeed, I've gone and bought a pair of Panda Optics goggles, lifetime warranty excluding wear and tear. |
Foam detaching from the frame would presumably be classed as wear and tear, unless the goggles had hardly been used?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Good lord, what a palaver. Everything has a lifespan.
Buy. New. Goggles.
Job done.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@Dr John, ha I raise you...
Get. The right. glue.
Job done.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| mgrolf wrote: |
| kitenski wrote: |
| @valais2, indeed, I've gone and bought a pair of Panda Optics goggles, lifetime warranty excluding wear and tear. |
Foam detaching from the frame would presumably be classed as wear and tear, unless the goggles had hardly been used? |
Almost certainly. I lifted the below from their website, struggling to think what it actually covers if not the lenses straps or frames...
"This warranty lasts for the lifetime of your goggles! It does not cover general wear and tear inflicted by use, and will not cover any kind of improper usage. Panda Optics has sole discretion to determine manufacturer's defects dependent on claim.
The warranty does not cover scratched/damaged lenses, straps or frames"
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