Every season we make an effort to go into the transceiver training park. Well this morning was that session in an overcast and extremely quiet Mürren. Everyone who has been out with a guide or done some basic training is told "practice, practice, practice"!
This advice is extremely good, on a scale of 10 I gave myself a 2 on my first effort. Woeful probably sums it up accurately.
I have owned a transceiver for close to 20 years and used them each season. We all imagine that it's like riding a bike and couldn't possibly loose the knack.
Be honest.....go out there to one of the many training parks across the Alps put yourself to the test!
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The only places we've found training areas have been in North America.
We used to use the training space in Tignes when it was down by the lake in Le Lac but it seems to have gone now, and we've not found any elsewhere in Europe. But I've not looked really hard.
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I've only seen one training park in my life. Although as with @gixxerniknik, its not something I look hard for. I would like to see more resorts put them in and make them obvious i.e. marked on piste maps. But I can understand it's a pretty low priority, in my season at Red Mountain I only saw a handful of people ever use it.
@gixxerniknik, we used on in Siviez (4 Valleys, Switzerland) last season as part of our Mountain Safety module for instructor training. I think there's also one in Verbier as well.
I also believe we have one in the Zillertal valley here in Hochfugen.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
It is quite possible that the greatest concentration of the practice areas is Switzerland, Mammut sponsored/provided.
@swskier, Yep... It's opposite the 8erAlm in Hochfügen. Our ski school, SkiCheck, look after it so if one of our instructors/guides is there with a group, please go for a ski and come back in an hour. Otherwise it's free to use. Press the Start button, wait 2 mins. and it's good to go.
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Everyone who has been out with a guide or done some basic training is told "practice, practice, practice
Exactly!
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@gixxerniknik, that would be another thing you missed in Serre Chevalier then
Actually I always forget about it there...
DVA Park
Taste the pleasure of controlled freeride thanks to the use of DVA beacons (Avalanche Victim Detectors)!
Discover an activity that is both fun and educational and will appeal to all snow sports fans, particularly Freeride skiers and off-piste enthusiasts.
This space, located on the Monêtier site, near the arrival of the Bachas chairlift, is freely accessible and allows you to learn how to use the DVA beacons made available to you for tests and scenarios.
After all it is free
After all it is free
@Weathercam, ….Grom2 did his first full avalanche training day 1:1 with a great guide who came over from Verbier - and then they went into the Faverges for a day … pits, steep and reasonably deep, crust - just about everything. And re beacon practice - at the multiple burial practice the Grom managed to save two beacons but one died. Very sad face.
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@Weathercam, That's why we missed it then...we went down to Monêtier just the once, conditions low down were pretty awful so didn't go down there again!
Actually we've had great fun practicing with the transceivers when we've done it and generally look for somewhere to play. Most of the practice areas have been in NA though.
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I'm surprised by the number of people never having noticed them, as I've been aware of them in many resorts for quite a few years. Maybe it's just that we had one when we were living in Engelberg and that there's one just across from us here at les Crosets, so I've mentally extrapolated from those.
@Weathercam, That's why we missed it then...we went down to Monêtier just the once, conditions low down were pretty awful so didn't go down there again!
Actually we've had great fun practicing with the transceivers when we've done it and generally look for somewhere to play. Most of the practice areas have been in NA though.
It's at the top of Bachas not down at village level.
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Apparently 5 in Chamonix - though I've only used 2 (Flegere and Grands Montets).
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Well guys, it's not very well advertised, it's not even mentioned on this page...https://www.serre-chevalier.com/en/ski-area/pleasures-snow-sports-safety/avalanche-transceiver-checkpoints
I can't see anything on the piste map, but there's no key to the one I've got so it's not surprising.
We found the transciever check points but that's not the same thing.
A quick search brings up La Rosiere, La Plagne, Chamonix but nothing in Serre Che. It is mentioned here though...https://triptipper.com/tips/serre-chevalier and I have found mention on the French language site.
Next time I go to Serre Che, and there will be a next time I hope, I'll look harder!
You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
@gixxerniknik, aaaahhhhh that would be the normal Serre Che website bollox designed to confuse the best
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how much time does anyone devote to digging practice?
On a recent course in Chamonix, six of us dug down to the bottom of a probe 180cm down - working absolutely flat out (and not through debris, although lower down was pretty compacted) it took us 10 minutes, which was pretty sobering.
On transceiver practice, a couple of years ago there was a good park at the top of the Transarc in Les Arcs, which I assume is still there. One was being set up in Courchevel last winter (not sure if it's still there), and there is one marked up on Rendl in St Anton (although I went through that one last month and there was nothing transmitting).
I believe there is one in VT, next to the green/fun park run that cuts from the top of 2 Lacs down to Stade. But because it's just a "DVA Park" legend on a piste map I don't think people notice it. Need to make an effort to give it a go during the EoSB
We used one near Der Wolf restaurant at the top of the Petersboden lift in Lech - unfortunately it was right by the piste, and half the skiers passing us (and in the restaurant) had their transceivers on, which made for quite challenging searching
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Over the years I have explained to many people my fear of a deep burial scenario.@snowdave,
Is absolutely correct, 1m depth of cover is frightening. I vividly recall a young guide saying that to remove somebody at 1m depth the digging team will shift 4 metres cubed of snow.
We have done some digging practice at Swiss alpine club training days. Generally the instructor or guide will suggest you hold your breath whilst digging..... that's what your friend is doing buried down there!
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@Rogerdodger, Indeed.... And when you realise that 1 cubi metre of snow weighs about a ton (1000kg) that is a frightening prospect.
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@SnoodyMcFlude, That's a good idea, I'd be up for some practice on the trip
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@Rogerdodger, Indeed.... And when you realise that 1 cubi metre of snow weighs about a ton (1000kg) that is a frightening prospect.
It's not light but not that heavy as a tonne. 1m³ of water is 1tonne.