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Hi! Is there a mogul run in la rosiere at the moment please? Man made one rather than natural. And if so, do you know who do we contact to see about using it? Thanks in advance.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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From memory the few runs steep enough are pisted regularly. Contact the tourist office .
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Canuck wrote: |
| mogul run ... Man made one rather than natural. . |
Gen question - what's the difference between 'man made' and 'natural'
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If you want bumps, go to Verbier or St Anton.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Take a right immediately off the roches noires lift think its called chevreuil or something like that
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| red 27 wrote: |
| Canuck wrote: |
| mogul run ... Man made one rather than natural. . |
Gen question - what's the difference between 'man made' and 'natural' |
Made on purpose, more orderly and usually have a jump. Used for competitions.
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| Whitegoldsbrother wrote: |
Take a right immediately off the roches noires lift think its called chevreuil or something like that |
That might satisfy them, thank you
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@Canuck, I very highly doubt it. Not of any interest to anyone but comp bumps skiers* and highly dangerous to anyone else.
The only time (although not something I'm paying attention to) that I've seen one that wasn't raced on then destroyed was on the Tignes glacier for training.
* presumably actually your interest.
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I comment as a former world cup mogul judge currently skiing in 3V.
You only get proper moguls evenly spaced out on competition runs which are not open to the public. The pictures above have 'bumps' on them made by people randomly turning but its rare to find some decent bumps on piste that you can ski in true fall-line fashion. Lots of 'punter-bumps' here in 3V this week which are lumps of snow with wide scraped area between. The area between the bumps gets larger and larger as more people try to avoid the bump! Best proper bumps in 3V form on Combe Rosael after fresh snow. There are also 2 competition runs of bumps off the side of Bartavelle in the Meribel valley at the moment. These were used for French Cup competitions about a week ago but have netting round to close them off. You also get skiable small bumps off the side of pistes or sometimes down the middle when most people try to ski the scraped hardpack and it throws the soft snow to the middle or sides of the piste. Combe Vallon in Meribel was like that a few days ago and I had a lovely ski searching out the soft bumps one side or the other. Most of the black runs here are being pisted every few days to keep the snow packed down for half term. Mrmogulski and I went down Bosses yesterday and there wasn't a bump in sight!
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| Whitegold wrote: |
| If you want bumps, go to Verbier or St Anton. |
If you really want bumps, go to North America. Most black runs over the pond are groomed only a handful of times per season. Double black runs are never groomed. Even blue trails are often groomed only on one side of the run.
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| under a new name wrote: |
@Canuck, I very highly doubt it. Not of any interest to anyone but comp bumps skiers* and highly dangerous to anyone else.
The only time (although not something I'm paying attention to) that I've seen one that wasn't raced on then destroyed was on the Tignes glacier for training.
* presumably actually your interest. |
Yes, two teenagers, they're racers but have trained in moguls, maybe 10 times each? So not olympic standard, but can pick a line and get down safely. One of them doesn't have moguls at their local hill so looking to have a practice while in the area if there are any. We would have to know who to contact, but looks like there no might not be any anyways 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@Jonny Jones, In Les Arcs one or two black pistes are occaisionally bashed, but most are natur runs that are never bashed and as a consequence develop some quite big bumps. Funnily the piste named "Bosses" in Vallandry is the black piste that most frequently never has moguls. Who said the French don't do irony.
I did once see an artificial bump field in Andorra on a slope that was too gentle to form them naturally. It was fun for a couple days then skiers basically flattened them and they merged into the rest of the piste.
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The only places in France that have mogul courses are going to be those with clubs that compete. eg. Chatel, Meribel, Megeve, La Clusaz, Tignes, Les Arcs, Monts d'Olmes. Alps D'Huez have a course for the World Cup, but I don't think they keep it afterwards.
As mogulski says these courses are always surrounded by netting, as the clubs don't want you using them. The club may give you permission to use the course, if you have a License Carte Neige or are with an instructor who is a friend of the club.
When my son wants to train moguls in France he either finds the best piste in the area with skier made moguls or makes his own line off-piste somewhere.
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You know it makes sense.
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Tignes is a short drive from La Rosiere if they DO have a bumps slope
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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When at Tignes many (many!) years ago, I did a multi-disciplinary course, Slalom, off-piste, moguls, steeps, and general piste skiing, one day of each over the course of a week, as I recall.
There was a barriered off man-made mogul run, looked as if they had been made with a JCB. After a morning being taught on the naturally formed ones, our instructor obviously "spoke to someone", which enabled us to through the entry gates and into the "stadium". I don't think it was open to any old Johnny / Johnetta who fancied having a go.
My God, it was terrifying.
I still watch the televised comps with awe and wonder.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| nbt wrote: |
| Tignes is a short drive from La Rosiere if they DO have a bumps slope |
That's one of the kids home slopes and occasionally uses the mogul run at Val Claret, but not enough, she want's more
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| Arctic Roll wrote: |
When at Tignes many (many!) years ago, I did a multi-disciplinary course, Slalom, off-piste, moguls, steeps, and general piste skiing, one day of each over the course of a week, as I recall.
There was a barriered off man-made mogul run, looked as if they had been made with a JCB. After a morning being taught on the naturally formed ones, our instructor obviously "spoke to someone", which enabled us to through the entry gates and into the "stadium". I don't think it was open to any old Johnny / Johnetta who fancied having a go.
My God, it was terrifying.
I still watch the televised comps with awe and wonder. |
They're actually made by skiers, usually from the club, they form the moguls with a series of little slips (or some other term as I'm no expert!), takes about a whole day for the team to make them. Pretty impressive the work that goes into it!
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Teams will often make their own courses as you described for training, but most competition courses that remain for the whole season are made mechanically. If your daughter wants more, then can you not join one of the clubs I mentioned above? I have no idea of your circumstances of course.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| doddsie wrote: |
| Teams will often make their own courses as you described for training, but most competition courses that remain for the whole season are made mechanically. If your daughter wants more, then can you not join one of the clubs I mentioned above? I have no idea of your circumstances of course. |
She's already with one of them, but she doesn't get to do much moguls as her coaches want her to focus on racing. We have family coming from Canada meeting us in La Rosiere so I thought it might be a good opportunity. But it's ok, they'll just have to enjoy the natural stuff.
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Most of the places I mentioned above have dedicated moguls clubs, where they don’t do any racing. My son raced until he was 12, but did as much mogul skiing as he could as well. Starting this year he is 100% focused on moguls. If she wants to try training in a competition mogul environment, but not give up on racing, then she might want to try a week in the summer in Whistler, on one of the mogul camps.
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