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Decent 12v Car Kettle: Unicorns?

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We finally booked- Val Cenis (been dying to try it) for next week- and are driving as usual. Simple question: has anyone found a half decent, safe 12v travel kettle they can recommend? Ta.

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In true forum tradition I’ll suggest something different from what you ask for…

We keep an MSR windburner in the boot - basically a gas kettle, v fast and ideal for a quick brew en route and after a long day in the hills. (Jetboil, Alpkit do similar products). No experience of 12v kettles but would assume gas will be much faster. Also it’s got integrated windshield so v efficient.
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Only thing I know about 12v kettles is plan ahead - Most take about 20-30 minutes to get 2 cups of water to temperature. You'd be better off getting a camp stove and pulling over for a brew.
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I've got two flasks that keep coffee too hot to drink for 4 hours and passable for 12 hours. How long is your journey?
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We bought a kettle to use in the car many years ago after being stuck in horrendous traffic and it seemed the sensible thing to do. We have only used it once to try it out and it did take about 20 minutes but we do always load it into the car along with chains etc etc. Generally travel with a few flasks made before we leave home or after a hotel overnight stay. Different travel kettle goes with us for that in case there isn’t one at a hotel. We often don’t use all the flasks but it’s a bit belt and braces.
Can’t say what make the 12v kettle is at it’s in the garage and too flipping cold to go and look right now.
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@Charliegolf, every service station we've stopped at in France seems to sell coffee makers etc aimed at Truckers with 12v connection.

However, every service station also has a reasonable brew for couple of euros from machine or better from Pauls etc. We just get those and tip into our insulated travel mugs.

Appreciate, in the best SH tradition, that doesn't answer the question Laughing
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I have one of these : https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126183808259

Annoyingly it's too big to fit in the car cup holders, but it does work. Takes perhaps 20-30 mins to get hot enough for a Nescafe (I don't drink tea). A typical (mains) household kettle is 2 or 3KW, so this 120W is going to take 20 times longer to boil the same amount of water. Plug it on once you're on the M20 headed towards Folkestone, or passing Cambrai on the way home and it'll be ready before you make the tunnel.

I'd also recommend a metal flask or travel mug like this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/314798647109 . If you make it up before you leave home then it'll still be warm enough to drink for a good 4-6 hours. Mine is still too hot to drink quickly by the time I get to Heathrow - about 2h away.
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https://kinto-europe.com/collections/travel-tumbler Phenomenally good
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I have had a couple of 12v travel kettles but rarely used them. They take for ever to heat water to boiling point and I never managed to plan for that very well.
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DJL wrote:
I've got two flasks that keep coffee too hot to drink for 4 hours and passable for 12 hours. How long is your journey?


Can reccomend the CamelPak insulated cups for 'single servings' . Like your flasks I have to plan making my travel tea well ahead of time or I've reached my destination before it comes down to a drinkable temperature!
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Tried 12v kettles gave up because they take so long and bought genuine glass lined Thermos flasks - they are difficult to find these day but keep hot water hot for at least 12 hours!
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Jetboil stash. The size of a travel mug and will make a cuppa in a couple of minutes.
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Just put the kettle on to boil while you are driving - about 30 mins before you plan to stop
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You'd be better off getting a camp stove and pulling over for a brew.
Definitely. A half-decent camping stove will boil half a litre of water in a few minutes.

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I've got two flasks that keep coffee too hot to drink for 4 hours and passable for 12 hours.
My steel, 1 litre vacuum flask from Go Outdoors is amazing. Red hot for 6-8 hrs and passable for 12 hrs or more.

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Takes perhaps 20-30 mins to get hot enough for a Nescafe (I don't drink tea)
For info: The same temperature water is used for tea @Judwin Toofy Grin
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For info: The same temperature water is used for tea


Not quite - tea needs boiling water, coffee needs not quite boiling - otherwise it burns Very Happy
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We have a jet boil & kettle and mini pan for road side ravioli if needed
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I have forced the French government to build motorway side refreshment areas at suitably spaced intervals on their motorway system rending such devices redundant, bon, non?
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Not quite - tea needs boiling water, coffee needs not quite boiling - otherwise it burns
I live and learn @MorningGory - turns out I've had a lifetime of drinking burnt instant coffee! Laughing
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@mountainaddict, Is boiling OK for instant? Is it just the real stuff that burns? Not something I've ever pondered before Cool
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@ster, congrats on your strength of stomach. Their coffee could strip a diesel engine and power it for a week Very Happy
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road side ravioli


I'm going to assume that is a euphemism... and a truly filthy one - So I understand why you'd need a pan of boiling water.
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@mountainaddict, Is boiling OK for instant? Is it just the real stuff that burns? Not something I've ever pondered before
That (ie boiling) is all I've ever used for instant. Seems OK to me! I'll have to try non-boilng and see if I can tell any difference! wink

I've never tried real coffee beans at home - only in Costa (and Greggs) etc wink
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If you've never tried a jet boil, you really should. They are a highly insulated, windproof gas stove and nothing heats water faster in my real world experience. It's a much better solution than an 12v kettle in my view. You'll have to pull over for comfort breaks/fuel anyway so why not use 60 seconds of that time to fire up the jet boil and refill your thermos. Much more convenient than trying for 30+mins to get a 12v kettle up to temp.
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MorningGory wrote:
mountainaddict wrote:
For info: The same temperature water is used for tea


Not quite - tea needs boiling water, coffee needs not quite boiling - otherwise it burns Very Happy


I never understood this argument, consisering how hot the coffee beans get when they are roasted Puzzled
Maybe boiling water extracts more flavour from the coffee?
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MorningGory wrote:
mountainaddict wrote:
For info: The same temperature water is used for tea


Not quite - tea needs boiling water, coffee needs not quite boiling - otherwise it burns Very Happy


I never understood this argument, consisering how hot the coffee beans get when they are roasted Puzzled
Maybe boiling water extracts more flavour from the coffee?

It depends on coffee beans, their roast level and what we are brewing. I recommend watching James Hoffman on YT if you need more details.

Re kettle. I bought MSR (normal, not wind burner) and it's great. I would replace it with a car kettle given how easy it is to pack it to a backpack and buy a can of gas. However, if it's just for water I would definitely go for windburner. On a windy day i need to cover it from wind in order to get water boiling.

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@mountainaddict, Is boiling OK for instant? Is it just the real stuff that burns? Not something I've ever pondered before Cool

Doesn't matter for instant because the coffee is already extracted, you are only changing it from powder to liquid version.
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At the end of the day, I brew my coffee, cook my eggs, fry my steak the way that I like it & take little notice of so called experts Very Happy
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At the end of the day, I brew my coffee, cook my eggs, fry my steak the way that I like it & take little notice of so called experts Very Happy

If you are happy with how it's done then no need for changes but I wouldn't call him "so called expert".
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