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Follie to Le Lac for novices

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What is the best way for novice skiers to return to Le Lac from the Follie?
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Down the Tovière lift.
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Yep, Ski down to Tommueses lift, take lift up, take Tovière gondola down
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Frosty the Snowman wrote:
Yep, Ski down to Tommueses lift, take lift up, take Tovière gondola down


This^^^

Don't be tempted to ski the Johan Clarey black run to get back.

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If they're real novices, they might not find the route to get there all that easy.
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sugarmoma666 wrote:
If they're real novices, they might not find the route to get there all that easy.

But if the Folie Douce is their thang, and they can get around on easy slopes, then imagine the joy of skiing the Green Triangle to get there. They would love that
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Frosty the Snowman wrote:
sugarmoma666 wrote:
If they're real novices, they might not find the route to get there all that easy.

But if the Folie Douce is their thang, and they can get around on easy slopes, then imagine the joy of skiing the Green Triangle to get there. They would love that

True. The tricky bit is getting to the green triangle. Depending on conditions, the runs from Toviere can be quite intimidating. It's possible that Fresse (I hope I've remembered the lift name right) gives an easier approach straight into the green triangle but I can't remember.
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An alternative to the Toviere download would be to ski the blue to Val Claret and jump on the bus, 5 or 10mins to Le Lac.
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Bus to val claret and up Fresse, lap green to hearts content before reaching folie. Then return via tommeuse and toviere lifts. Simples. snowHead
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@gilo, +1.

But define novice first. I met a lass at the top of the Olympique who had done 4 hours snowploughing at Cas Xscape but had to get t’Folie. She was frozen with fear at the top of the slope above the Bellvarde Resto. I persuaded her to download, get the bus and up the La Daille gondy. I then had to ski down to her bloke and explain!
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Perhaps these novices should concentrate on skiing rather than wasting time and money in the Folie.
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As others have said in order to GET to the folie they need to navigate a tricky section of blue from the top of the Toviere lift / mountain... and then then the narrow and nasty'ish Edelweiss piste. After that there is the pitch above the folie (best bet is ski the middle of the pitch as the snow is usually the best there and not too busy / bumpy usually) to navigate. If they skis this route after a large dump of snow or during school hols or later in the day it will be a minefield to get there for most skiers with say less than about two weeks skiing under their belt IMO.

However getting back easy via Tommeuse and Toviere download!

If they really want to just experience the folie for an afternoon or whatever then consider the bus around and bus back to and from Tignes - that way can even go in shoes!
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gilo wrote:
Bus to val claret and up Fresse, lap green to hearts content before reaching folie. Then return via tommeuse and toviere lifts. Simples. snowHead


Yes. Much easier way to get there than via Toviere.

But on getting off the Fresse chair they will see a massive big hole in the ground ahead of them helpfully marked with massive big wooden stakes. Go RIGHT of the hole, then left at the signpost. Don't go left of the hole, it's not a novice-friendly way down.


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Steve Angus wrote:
- that way can even go in shoes!
Yh but an expert such as yourself would know: apres doesn't count unless it's in ski boots
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Steve Angus wrote:
- that way can even go in shoes!
Yh but an expert such as yourself would know: apres doesn't count unless it's in ski boots
(That's why snowBoarders can't do it properly Twisted Evil )
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And a gold lame ski jacket Toofy Grin
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Steve Angus wrote:
As others have said in order to GET to the folie they need to navigate a tricky section of blue from the top of the Toviere lift / mountain... and then then the narrow and nasty'ish Edelweiss piste. After that there is the pitch above the folie (best bet is ski the middle of the pitch as the snow is usually the best there and not too busy / bumpy usually) to navigate. If they skis this route after a large dump of snow or during school hols or later in the day it will be a minefield to get there for most skiers with say less than about two weeks skiing under their belt IMO.

However getting back easy via Tommeuse and Toviere download!

If they really want to just experience the folie for an afternoon or whatever then consider the bus around and bus back to and from Tignes - that way can even go in shoes!


You mean they can get a bus there and back?
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You mean they can get a bus there and back?
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Steve0192 wrote:
You mean they can get a bus there and back?

Bus from Tignes to La Daille in Val D'Isere, up & down the La Daille gondola (need area ski pass), then bus back to Tignes.
Or could wear ski boots & take skis on bus to La Daille & gondola, then back via Tommuses & Toviere (again with area pass).
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Steve0192 wrote:
You mean they can get a bus there and back?


Yes Tignes to La Daille, gondola up, gondola down and bus home yes!
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@Steve0192,

Lots of good information has been posted in this thread.

One fact that I haven't established is will you have a "Tignes Only" ski pass or a full "Tignes/Val" ski pass. If you have the Tignes Only ski pass then the only lift you can use is the Tommeuses Lift which is a Tignes Lift.

I believe that there is, new this year, a bus from Tignes 1800 (by the dam) to La Daille. You'll have to check out the timings of this bus.
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Complete novice (greens only): up Tommeuse lift , down Toviere lift.

But then to get to La Folie Douce you'd have taken the (easy) blues Creux/Edelweiss, so an alternative for slightly more competent skiers would be: up Tommeuse lift, then take Henry blue piste to Val Claret and hop on a free shuttle bus to Le Lac.

If the right snow conditions, skiing down from Tovieres (summit) to Le Lac is not that daunting, though, just try it out before rather than decide last minute after having had a few at Folie Douce.
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Thanks to all, amazing array of knowledge on how to “get to the pub”! Many thanks everyone. Eh oh!
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patrick! wrote:
Complete novice (greens only): up Tommeuse lift , down Toviere lift.

But then to get to La Folie Douce you'd have taken the (easy) blues Creux/Edelweiss, so an alternative for slightly more competent skiers would be: up Tommeuse lift, then take Henry blue piste to Val Claret and hop on a free shuttle bus to Le Lac.

If the right snow conditions, skiing down from Tovieres (summit) to Le Lac is not that daunting, though, just try it out before rather than decide last minute after having had a few at Folie Douce.


Not that daunting? For a beginner?

If you're staying in Lac and you're a beginner, the end of that run back down from Toviere looks like a cliff wall, no matter what the snow conditions look like. I'm happy with fairly steep reds and I'd REALLY not fancy that option....particularly when there's a Gondola going over my head that I could be on.
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I feel having a lift full of onlookers makes my bad skiing even worse, you're absolutely right.

Apologies if my remark was badly expressed. I meant for the OP to try pistes levels over the course of the stay, and decide on the route based on that - i.e. it's perfectly possible their level might improve very fast, we're all different.

I watched a yt video about a complete beginner aiming a skiing la Face de Bellevarde by the end of a 6 days' stay - well it's possible! The piste was well groomed, no moguls, not icy that day.
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@patrick!, you're not referring to the Taylor McKenzie video are you by any chance?
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