 Poster: A snowHead
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I've just seen a Facebook post from Snow Camps Europe that was posted 7 hours ago that says Munich airport is closed due to the heavy snowfall and there will be no air traffic until 6am on 3rd December.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I had a pic from a mate in Dachau, a few km from MUC. It was very snowy!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@Alastair Pink, whole bunch of people supposed to have been flying out with Alpine Coaching (Pete Gillespie) and a load from Gloucester Ski centre also heading up to Tux, all delayed to tomorrow.
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Update from The Dachau Garden snowometer: 43cm today.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Surviving '43 in Dachau...there's probably a tasteless joke there somewhere...but on reflection, I better not!! 
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@Alastair Pink, not only MUC. The entire railway system has shut down. Munich is not reachable by train, and there are no S-Bahn (local) trains running. Updates on Monday.
Have not seen snow like this here since 2006. Lots of (big) trees come down around us here (south of Munich near Starnberg)... The dog is loving it!
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@Steilhang, well I'm due to be collected from my B&B in Lanersbach tomorrow morning by Four Seasons Travel/Tirol taxi for my 15:50 flight from Munich airport back to London, so here's hoping both the roads and the flights are working OK tomorrow! 
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@Alastair Pink, should be ok. Autobahns are clear & MUC is resuming operations...
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No flights in to Munich again today apparently
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@swskier, flight radar is showing a small number of planes landing in Munich. By tomorrow stuff will normalise I think
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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We finally arrived in Munich on Sunday evening (last night). We had been trying to get here since Friday.
Unfortunately the airline have lost our bags and skis. We could have driven down to the Zillertal this morning, but we have decided to stay in Munich with family. With all the chaos at the airport we think the fastest way to get our stuff back will be to pick it up from the airport ourselves when/if it is located.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@Oceanic, i've heard multiple different people say they're now missing bags from Munich this weekend!
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| Oceanic wrote: |
We finally arrived in Munich on Sunday evening (last night). We had been trying to get here since Friday.
Unfortunately the airline have lost our bags and skis. We could have driven down to the Zillertal this morning, but we have decided to stay in Munich with family. With all the chaos at the airport we think the fastest way to get our stuff back will be to pick it up from the airport ourselves when/if it is located. |
I really recommend airtags. Then you'd know better than the airline where the bags are. The airport should ship the luggage to your hotel. My skis turned up 3 days late in Zell am See after enjoying a roundabout journey LHR>Vienna>Frankfurt>Salzburg
Bit late now I know, and hope you find your stuff soon, but they are surely a must have for any skier (who has an iphone...)
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You know it makes sense.
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| buchanan101 wrote: |
I really recommend airtags. Then you'd know better than the airline where the bags are. The airport should ship the luggage to your hotel. My skis turned up 3 days late in Zell am See after enjoying a roundabout journey LHR>Vienna>Frankfurt>Salzburg
Bit late now I know, and hope you find your stuff soon, but they are surely a must have for any skier (who has an iphone...) |
I’m fairly sure that our bags are in Brussels (my wife talked to the baggage handler who had unloaded our flight).
Problem is that Lufthansa/ Brussels Airlines have cancelled all their flights from Brussels to Munich today.
But yes- suspect AirTag sales will go up as a result of the Munich Airport chaos of the last few days.
Last edited by You know it makes sense. on Mon 4-12-23 13:24; edited 1 time in total
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@buchanan101,
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I really recommend airtags
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What are these, have you got a link please?
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Poster: A snowHead
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@Markymark29, Apple AirTags: https://www.apple.com/uk/airtag/
We had them in all our luggage for the NZ trip, and we generally knew whether or not the luggage had made it to the airport with us (in one case, we were sitting against the rear bulkhead behind which the luggage was stored, so it was never far enough away to lose contact!). They were transferred to car keys etc. on return, so still in use. The only thing is that the Apple keyring holders are a bit flimsy, so we went for screw-in ones from another manufacturer on Amazon.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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AirTags were also great finding our bags at disembarking the Queen Mary 2 in the Brooklyn seaport hangar so we could be first through US immigration...
Good also at baggage claim when skis are often last through - or go on a trolley somewhere - or just generally seeing how far bags are from coming on to the carousel.
Or if the bags are still back at LHR...
@Markymark29, they rely on lots of people having iphones - they see the nearest phone and the location is reported via the cloud. When close to them your phone will give you direction and distance to them. A pack of 4 is about £90 (skis, boots, suitcase, backpack...)
Size of a large coin, battery lasts about a year.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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They're clever things. A dozy friend has them for her car keys! But at present they're only for iphones, and I'm an Android person....
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When I looked into that reviews seemed mixed
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Hope you make it eventually, @Alastair Pink, but the business class lounge sounds OK - could be worse!
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@pam w, thanks, the Leberkäse was quite tasty.
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Trains have also been battered by the snow. Not just planes.
Germany in chaos. Transport system not as efficient as they once were.
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All take offs and landings cancelled at Munich between 6am and 12 noon tomorrow - freezing rain. Limited service resuming in the afternoon.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Then they werent lost, the airline and airport knew exactly where they were.
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You know it makes sense.
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Information for today on Munich airport's website:
"There are still severe restrictions in air traffic. The flight schedule is severely reduced due to the extreme weather conditions.
Please contact your airline before traveling to the airport to find out the status of your flight. If your flight is canceled, please use the airlines' online services, as there is insufficient capacity available at the airport for rebooking.
The Christmas and Winter Market will be closed until Friday, 8.12.23., and the light rides will not take place."
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Yes it has been chaos all round. The snow was not especially heavy but a lot fell in a short time, early December snow caught out lots of people, it was also pretty wet snow and the temperature then dropped so the various piles quickly turned into concrete. We then had an ice storm on Monday night (especially bad around Freising ie the airport). The trains are just about back to "normal" (not that has been good recently) the airport is still under stress. Dont assume your flight will run if in the next few days.
Lufthansa completely fell over, they turned the phones off and the online system stopped working, some folk been living at the airport since Friday! There are pictures doing the rounds of planes tipping back due to the weight of snow on the tail fins!
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@chocksaway, I presume that's the image I had heard about, looks like it has tipped back to me. The weather has been pretty unusual, snow we can generally cope with, laugh at the UK grinding to a halt when two snow flakes are spotted, but this has been very unusual and frustrating for those stuck.
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@munich_irish, 1933 was a date I heard since it was that bad. I’ve been to Munich quite a few times mostly in Winter and generally it all works fine. Buddy in Dachau is WFH and his garden has disappeared!
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There is a lot of whinging in the local media about the chaos, various comments about Munich turning into Berlin etc. It has not gone unnoticed that not far away in the Tirol they got pretty much the same weather but no chaos there, the trains are running and the airports open! The trains around Garmisch are still not running apparently DB is waiting for the weather to warm up!
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| munich_irish wrote: |
| There is a lot of whinging in the local media about the chaos, various comments about Munich turning into Berlin etc. It has not gone unnoticed that not far away in the Tirol they got pretty much the same weather but no chaos there, the trains are running and the airports open! The trains around Garmisch are still not running apparently DB is waiting for the weather to warm up! |
Trains here were certainly disrupted, funnily enough the biggest problem was the Deutches Eck preventing travel between Innsbruck and Salzburg. Looking on the weather radar it did look like the worst of the storm passed through Bavaira rather than Tirol. We certainly haven't had the ice storm issues that you guys had.
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Does anyone know if any other airports were affected at the end of last week? I believe my Lufthansa flight to Vienna was cancelled due to consolidation rather than snow (we were rerouted via Zurich and Frankfurt), but as we weren't given an explanation, I don't actually know. Some flights out of Zurich were cancelled on Thursday evening (we had to find a hotel), but again I don't know why or which airport was the affected one (I suspect snow in this case, as there was some at both on arrival, but not loads). I guess that could have been a knock-on effect from Munich?
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@Scarlet, I think it’s fair to say that Munich was at the epicentre of the bad weather. But conditions across Europe were less than ideal for flying, snow and fog in the UK etc.
Delays unfortunately build up as the well oiled machine that is civil aviation is running at near full capacity. Flight delays compound, cancellations or aircraft stuck in the wrong place remove them from the game, crews run up against crew duty times, deicing takes time and causes delays and so on. You then get ATC delays as you can’t fit 18 hours worth of flights into 12 hours when things start moving.
Actually tracking back to go find out what caused your delay is nigh on impossible. Butterflies flapping wings and all that!
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@chocksaway, I believe we are eligible for compensation if it was due to the airline cockups, but not for weather. We'd at least like the hotel and food costs back – Zurich is not cheap – and we have it it writing that they were going to book us into a hotel, it's just that they never did. I was out of contact for about 32 hours, and clearly a lot can happen in that time.
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