 Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Never seen them or been on them, but I would 100% keep them and at least try them. They sound exiting from the description.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@06dsanderson, nothing that old ski wise is worth much but they're probably pretty nice to ski on ...
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Thanks for the replies both, will give them a go, seems the sensible option!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I understand they make you ski really close to the person in front.............then they force past at the worst possible moment and cut them up. 
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@king key, wow that’s original
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Sorry to have offended you. Perhaps you could add me to your blocked user list?
Last edited by Then you can post your own questions or snow reports... on Sat 11-11-23 15:20; edited 1 time in total
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@king key, I drive an Audi and sensibly. And no I’m not offended just don’t appreciate the inane comment. Don’t flatter yourself regards blocked list I’m not at all interested in your other comments, just find the Audi non-joke irritating.
Last edited by After all it is free  on Sat 11-11-23 16:59; edited 1 time in total
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The skis look interesting.
- Carbon ski design that combines technology from the motorsports and winter sports industries
- Wooden core plus layers of aluminium and titanium, all covered in a carbon case
- Weighs just 960 grams, 200 grams less than comparable models
- Collaboration with sportswear brand Head and the German Ski Association
- Ski length of 170 cm
- Developed 08/09 and launched 11/12
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960g is bollux - they were more like 1600g. And typical Head bull saying they have a titanium layer when it's actually titanal.
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Pair of boneshakers well over a decade-old.
Worth about a Euro.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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If nothing else they would look good on the ceiling of the garage.
What's that gizmo in the binding where your foot goes?
I like the look of them.
I always thought that titanal was what the americans called titanium... I learn something every day.
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| DrLawn wrote: |
If nothing else they would look good on the ceiling of the garage.
What's that gizmo in the binding where your foot goes?
I like the look of them.
I always thought that titanal was what the americans called titanium... I learn something every day. |
A marketing amalgum of "Titan" & "Aluminium" to make it sound like Titanium to the cursory glance 
Broadly a high strength aluminium alloy with elements such as copper, manganese etc figuring in it's makeup to give a very durable and high strength alloy, extraordinarily good, but not Titanium.
It's almost a ttavesty to try and mask it's real properties by using marketing bollux as John noted.
The material can stand proudly upon it's own merit, usually called "Duralamin" in general engineering parlance.
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You know it makes sense.
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@ski3, Thanks for that ...
I've heard of Duralamin from when I was a schoolboy, wanting to make my BSA Bantam go faster.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Not Duralumin? Isn’t that what they made zeppelins frames from?
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Not Duralumin? Isn’t that what they made zeppelins frames from? |
Likely, from Brittanica resource "duralumin, strong, hard, lightweight alloy of aluminum, widely used in aircraft construction, discovered in 1906 and patented in 1909 by Alfred Wilm, a German metallurgist; it was originally made only at the company Dürener Metallwerke at Düren, Germany."
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| DrLawn wrote: |
I always thought that titanal was what the americans called titanium... I learn something every day. |
I thought exactly the same until a thread on here a few years ago 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Whitegold wrote: |
Pair of boneshakers well over a decade-old.
Worth about a Euro. |
https://www.designboom.com/design/audi-carbon-ski-update/
Just about 15 years out of date concept ...... Aluminium shock absorber idea nicked from Marker Race bindings (Allegedly M'Lud) .... Monocoque idea nicked from Salomon 9000 Equipes (again Allegedly M'Lud)
Interestingly no dimensions, no rocker/camber details nor flex profiling. Looks like a pretty sports car, best kept in concourse condition, as a museum piece. 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Titanium is so last century. Carbon is the new rage now.
Sorry for doing a White gold
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I have a Titanal board and the key feature is vibration absorption. That's achieved by a metal and rubber sandwich: a system not a single material. I'm thinking that the characteristics of the metal are probably not that critical; it just has to be flexible enough to dump energy into the rubber. Titanium could be stiffer than Titanal depending on how it's alloyed - you're not going to use it any other way - but that's possibly not what you want for "damping" anyway.
I think other constructions have improved significantly recently. When I first switched to metal the difference [from glass] was massive, when I switched recently from metal to carbon/ glass, I didn't really notice. There was a time when no snowboard race was won on anything other than Titanal, but Benjamin Karl won on a composite... times are changing.
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What a day they must have been in the marketing office, to have tit and anal in the same word and marketed with a straight face.
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| ski3 wrote: |
| abc wrote: |
Titanium is so last century. Carbon is the new rage now.
Sorry for doing a White gold |
actually....
Carbon fibre, originating (or recognised as such) with Thomas Eddison for light bulb filament, from burnt cotton strand.
Then development of structural, contained within resins to make "carbon fibre" as we reference here, in the 1950s.
Concorde brakes of such materials and development in early sixties as notable application that is often now seen as very cutting edge, contemporary today.
So last century, and the one before that
Obviously marketing pick what it thinks is the embodiment of a advanced and technical "magic" ingredient to pull in the cash....thought Graphene was the latest supermodel, angel haired material that is considered such. |
“Carbon”, as an element, had existed longer than human kind.
Needless to say, human usage of “carbon” has also predated metal.
But carbon composite as a construction material, surpass titanium. That’s a far cry from the “last century and the one before that”.
That’s not to say carbon in skis is any guarantee of good performance. Still, the infinitely flexible manufacturing and wide spread application of composite material is definitely a marvel of “this century”! Cheap too.
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@abc, Well the tone of the thread had evolved into the falsehood or joking about ski industry use of headline singing materials to create an illusion or halo product.
Note I did write "fibre" in those sentence along with other qualifying parts of description to differentiate from pure carbon.
As for timing, and working within a lead establishment (not at that time) of commercial development of carbon composite application, mid sixties progression toward 1967 launch date, say its factually of near mid last century in the form we now recognise for general products.
Also located there, a wide gamut of metallurgy driven research.
Titanal is still amusing in it's ultimately false moniker to drag more cash from a consumer though.
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@ski3, I get the joking against “carbon” anything.
And to be fair, carbon composite had been used in the aerospace industry before 2000. However, ti had given carbon a run for the money for quite some years. In the end, carbon composite won the money race thanks to the ease of manufacturing, if not for flexibility and durability.
The proliferation of “carbon something” is definitely more this century. Carbon kicked Ti to the side on weight sensitive applications. Once that’s accomplished, there’s no longer any “prestige” in carbon inclusion in most products any more. Just a nod to it being the “clever application of appropriate material”, as a footnote in marketing.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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"Titanal" is a brand name for a kind of duraluminum owned and produced by Austria Metall AG. Has a nice ring to it, hasn't it?
As for the Audi ski, looks nice, is most likely built to the highest standard with the best materials available. So, given sidecut and length are suitable, I'd ski it. There hasn't been much (if any?) development in piste skis these last fifteen years anyway. So why not?
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| Markymark29 wrote: |
| @king key, I drive an Audi and sensibly. And no I’m not offended just don’t appreciate the inane comment. Don’t flatter yourself regards blocked list I’m not at all interested in your other comments, just find the Audi non-joke irritating. |
 couldn't have put it better myself..... what a clown
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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All the Audi drivers are a bit tetchy at the moment since one of their spirit animals described the entire Audi range and almost all their back catalogue as less interesting versions of better cars. Whether this translates to the skis is anyone's guess.
Titanal is an aluminium alloy, genuinely that not dissimilar to the alloy used in Coke cans.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| ajc2260626 wrote: |
| Markymark29 wrote: |
| @king key, I drive an Audi and sensibly. And no I’m not offended just don’t appreciate the inane comment. Don’t flatter yourself regards blocked list I’m not at all interested in your other comments, just find the Audi non-joke irritating. |
couldn't have put it better myself..... what a clown |
Schesh!, sorry to have ruined all your lives.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@king key, those Audi skiers/drivers, no sense of humour!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| ster wrote: |
| @king key, those Audi skiers/drivers, no sense of humour! |
Indeed, although they'll need it when the main stealer gives them the repair bills.
I feel one of them is going to start crying again.
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Audi drivers are ladies' front bottoms. Especially those in A3's or Q5's.
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