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Anyone have or tried both ? which is the warmest
Hestra Army Gloves v Free the powder gloves
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Nope but my take on it is that Hestra are more comfy premium probably softer leather feel, FTP are more high quality build classic work gloves like an improved Kinco.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Old thread but if folks are looking for Hestra gloves a couple of sites have them on offer currently.
Limited colours and sizes I figure last years stock.
Got myself a pair of heli ski gloves and when Mrs G seen them a pair have been ordered for her. >£80
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@Mollerski, is that unusual? I say it all the time ?
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@Mollerski, depends on which vehicle of my car collection I'm taking, really.
I have more than one pair of gloves associated with ski related activities, so specifying them becomes habitual. Likewise jackets. Although that's maybe more functional, i.e. ski, spring, touring? That said, when I've lost one, It's handy to specify "black Arcteryx" to Mrs U rather than just "black" <or> "Arcteryx" [/gear_junkie] 
Also, I suppose, it's handy when there are more pairs of gloves on the table to specify them, although that usually doesn't help as just about everyone I ski with has Hestras 
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When you drive sh!te, wear sh!te and your friends are all a bit skint, it's better to gloss over the fact and just get the beers in. 
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| Skijonuk wrote: |
Anyone have or tried both ? which is the warmest
Hestra Army Gloves v Free the powder gloves |
In true internet fashion, I feel inclined to point out that neither is warmest: mitts are warmer.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Frankly, the only reason lifties etc wear work-type gloves is cost . Thery're adequate and cheap . Doesn't mean good, necessarily.
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You know it makes sense.
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@Roguevfr, The Venitex gloves are made of thick leather, it makes a big difference if you are frequently touching cold metal.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I really like my Hestras. I wont be swapping.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I think Hestras are I very decent glove.
Other options are out there and people have the own preferences.
Mrs G got hers for >£80 for Army Leather Heli ski gloves. Not cheep but a chunk of the list price.
Mitts are warmer but she was not wanting mitts
Realistically below -12 and we are looking for a cossy hut. My days of being out in all weather is long past.
Last edited by Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person on Mon 4-09-23 21:22; edited 2 times in total
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Hestras are a decent glove and if I was looking for the best fitting all leather glove at any price I'd probably go for them. On the other hand my Kinco mitts are now 8 years old and barely broken in beyond developing a nice patina from waxing. I suspect they'll outlive me. I have a $10 pair of Costco thinsulate all leather work gloves that are also looking pretty promising bar a bit of the chrome yellow coming off the finger tips.
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Also bear in mind, some people expect gloves to do the impossible. Sometimes your hands will get a bit cold. And if you have Raniers (sp?) or whatever, nothing you buy will fully compensate. You may need warmer things that you can put in.
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| Layne wrote: |
| Also bear in mind, some people expect gloves to do the impossible. Sometimes your hands will get a bit cold. And if you have Raniers (sp?) or whatever, nothing you buy will fully compensate. You may need warmer things that you can put in. |
*Reynauds , but yes, agreed. Just trying to point out that the " French binman" gloves or similar are used predominantly because they're cheap, hard wearing and those who use them don't want to spend a lot of money regularly replacing gloves due to wear and tear. It doesn't mean that they're as good, or better than purpose designed ski wear.
Also, those choosing them generally work outdoors in the cold and are likely used to it, and not 1 week a year softies like most of us.
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@Roguevfr, I think "workman's gloves" is a bit of a misnomer. Workman's gloves could mean anything.
Gloves the "lifties" (and skiers) wear are specifically designed, as explained here and here for skiing and outdoor activities.
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| Layne wrote: |
@Roguevfr, I think "workman's gloves" is a bit of a misnomer. Workman's gloves could mean anything.
Gloves the "lifties" (and skiers) wear are specifically designed, as explained here and here for skiing and outdoor activities. |
French binman gloves is a pretty specific description. Regardless, they're designed/built with cheap/sturdy as their main requirement.
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@Roguevfr, * Raynaud's ...
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| under a new name wrote: |
| @Roguevfr, * Raynaud's ... |
my spelling
Mine must be the fox spelling. Apologies.
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| Roguevfr wrote: |
| Layne wrote: |
@Roguevfr, I think "workman's gloves" is a bit of a misnomer. Workman's gloves could mean anything.
Gloves the "lifties" (and skiers) wear are specifically designed, as explained here and here for skiing and outdoor activities. |
French binman gloves is a pretty specific description. Regardless, they're designed/built with cheap/sturdy as their main requirement. |
You mean normal ski gloves are made to be expensive and not sturdy 
From snowshepherd "The gloves resemble the classic Venitex FBF15 Chamonix bin men gloves in appearance but are actually designed as proper ski gloves."
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If you're going to split hairs then I'd point out that that is one brand.
What design profile garment manufacturers use is up to them - I'd suggest warmth and weatherproof would be the main priorities, along with attractive design, not the ability to withstand shovelling snow 6 days a week .
Anyway, doesn't the fact that these are "copied from" but designed AS PROPER ski gloves prove that the originals are lacking in some department?
So what you have here are actually inexpensive copies of an original glove , and not actually work gloves at all.
I've no axe to grind here - I've had many pairs of gloves including hestras, but I've also found mant to be better than them. However, if there's one thing I'm not going to skimp on its warm hands , and definitely not for cost.
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@Roguevfr, I went skiing indoors yesterday. I chose to take my Venitex gloves, they were not lacking in any department.
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| rjs wrote: |
| @Roguevfr, I went skiing indoors yesterday. I chose to take my Venitex gloves, they were not lacking in any department. |
how nice for you. Was it -20 deg and blowing horizontal sleet in there ?
Last time I skied indoors I wore running gloves. So what ?
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@Garfield, while I generally agree with you, wind chill is (to an extent) a bit of a nonsense if you are correctly protected.
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Poster: A snowHead
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We've gone a bit 'Larry Labels' here. Hestra do make a fine glove and they have become the 'must have' brand, but they're not the only manufacturer up there.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@Roguevfr, I had several different pairs of ski gloves (not Hestra as I couldn't afford top end) and then all failed in durability (sometimes functionally too). My missus always banged on about leather being better. Anyhow a few years ago I got the snow shepherd ones for about £35 iirc and they've been great and proved to be very durable aswell functional - they are warm and weatherproof. Personally I like how they look but the wife and kids are less convinced. In fact my daughter got new Hestras at the end of last season. It just seems to me that if you can live with the looks (binman/worker) they are a good option.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| under a new name wrote: |
| @Garfield, while I generally agree with you, wind chill is (to an extent) a bit of a nonsense if you are correctly protected. |
True but it's the wind that finds the week spots. It's not helped by the stop start nature of skiing. Periods of high activity then sat still on a chair inactive for a spell.
There is decent kit out there that is not overly expensive and stuff that you are paying for the label. Finding what works is the hard bit.
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I had my old Hestras for 12 seasons. Skiing 40+ days a season. Had to change the inner glove a few times, and I always oiled them a few times. They last - forever
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This.
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I was a Hestra fan for many years. But I love my Free the Powder mittens. My hands don't get sweaty so the lining is staying nice. Hopefully they last as long as the the Hestras, which died after maybe 10 years (probably 600 days of use, maybe more).
I got both on end of season sales and they cost no more than any other glove.
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Been bought as a present a pair of the Rab Khroma Freeride glove as my Hester army gloves are being supplemented by duct tape. Not work in anger yet but I anticipate they will be much warmer. I always wear liners with the Hester gloves. The leather is thick between glove and index finer so should be durable.
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@Garfield, helps if ye aren't wearin' any cotton ... cotton'll kill ya. He he he.
I haven't found that problem nearly so much since I started layering properly with only synthetics (I don't like merino).
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FAQ
By that token, would you say that you were going to take the car to pop to the shop, or the (insert car brand) to pop to the shop? Just curious. 
