 Poster: A snowHead
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@cringingwhinging, I've not skied Rossi E88s but they have a reputation for being a reasonably stiff, damp recreational piste ski that can handle chop/crud as well. Heavy and twitchy for groomed pistes doesn't really fit with that. You do say that you're skiing more slowly than you used to, so I wonder if that means you're no longer bending them enough.
As others have said, lessons/technique could help. Equally though, if you're only skiing on piste and in "good" snow conditions then I'd be looking at a narrower piste-focused ski. You don't need lots of width underfoot, and it just makes everything harder.
Without knowing how big you are, it's hard to be specific but equally it's hard to go too badly wrong in the ~75mm category (as long as you avoid anything claiming to be close to an FIS-rated ski). How often do you ski, and how do you get there? If it's only once or twice a year, and flying, why not rent on your next holiday and try a few different skis? Much better to try them yourself rather than rely on internet experts. After all, you can't be sure any of us actually ski  
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Ski wot u got until you want something that will make you behave more juveniley like a bigger tail rocker for more roostering or pivot stomps. Learn some freestyle lingo like how to syrup your pancake bacon style. Fist bump your skiing pals and say " sick brah".
Rage rage against the dying of the light.
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| mgrolf wrote: |
@cringingwhinging, I've not skied Rossi E88s but they have a reputation for being a reasonably stiff, damp recreational piste ski that can handle chop/crud as well. Heavy and twitchy for groomed pistes doesn't really fit with that. You do say that you're skiing more slowly than you used to, so I wonder if that means you're no longer bending them enough.
As others have said, lessons/technique could help. Equally though, if you're only skiing on piste and in "good" snow conditions then I'd be looking at a narrower piste-focused ski. You don't need lots of width underfoot, and it just makes everything harder.
Without knowing how big you are, it's hard to be specific but equally it's hard to go too badly wrong in the ~75mm category (as long as you avoid anything claiming to be close to an FIS-rated ski). How often do you ski, and how do you get there? If it's only once or twice a year, and flying, why not rent on your next holiday and try a few different skis? Much better to try them yourself rather than rely on internet experts. After all, you can't be sure any of us actually ski |
Brilliant, thank you for taking the time to reply.
Ski twice a year and virtually always drive. Skied Les Gets at Christmas and the conditions were so bad the E88s were perfect, contrary, the Tignes conditions last week were so perfect they did not ski well (to me).
Was already swinging towards a set of easy piste skis. Will get another set of piste skis (gave my Pursuits to an adult son) - looks like the latest versions are rossi react?
Time to look for end of season bargains
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Ski lots wrote: |
| Isn’t SH great. Someone comes on and asks an innocent question and most of the responses answer a completely different one. I’m frankly surprised that the OP hasn’t been told that all his problems would be over if he would only fit winter tyres; wear a helmet; ski in Les Saises or anywhere in Austria. |
Got AT tyres on all our vehicles and haven't skied Austria for about 8 years, sorry.
Never worn a helmet for sking (or cycling) in my entire life. Hope that doesn't upset lots of users and cause them to post furiously in defence of bin lid wearing and its positive impact on the environment, Brexit or the cost of bread in Cornwall.
Thank you for your post. I was able to sift through the meaningless drivel posts that, hopefully, gave their authors some sort of validation in their miserable lives and get to the information I needed - largely looking for confirmation bias that I need another set of piste skis.
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| Dave of the Marmottes wrote: |
Rage rage against the dying of the light. |
Old age should burn and rave at close of day -
I'm the fittest I've been for years - Triple By-Pass (3CABG) ten years ago at 57. Now skiing on the second shortest pair of skis in my life at 177cms, fattest ever at 92mm width, still ski on 2 layers of titanal, and I've optimistically invested in a pair of Strolz Blue Race ski boots this year (£yikes) in the hopeful expectancy of another 10 years left in my skiing. A long time since the Sally Equipe 9000 S2's Power 8, or Dynastar SL coupe du Mondes 200cms, and Dynasty 195's, but having skied that generation of straight-liners I absolutely love the feed-back of rocker/camber/low rise skis that smash anything.
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@cringingwhinging, Volkl Kendos, Blizzard Brahma, Kastle FX85 HP. Eeeny, meeeny, miiny, mohhh.
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@cringingwhinging, worth a read through as it discusses various attributes of non conventional ski in fairly light weight https://blisterreview.com/gear-reviews/2021-2022-black-crows-mirus-cor for an interesting ski.
Something I like, but the hardened gnarly radius focused on here generally don't, a ski with mounting more central (which this one is) has a different and more casual intent by placing you nearer centre for a "different" day out on the slopes. More toward park type geometry, playful with a forgiving balance end to end.
As noted, worth a read through, even if you don't want to buy, what they think of it as it picks up on that nuance.
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@cringingwhinging, just as well I'm a very forgiving soul as I saw no
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and neither do I see that you
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need another set of piste skis
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Just generally quite sensible (as you would find down the pub) suggestions that I would précis as "you aren't fit enough" and "your last service was probably a bit gash".
But, hey ho, it's your wallet.
(Oh and, probs a bit of an improvement in technique wouldn't go amiss? Happens to all of us, every time I think I'm getting a bit less good a decent session with someone else who knows what they're up to and woo hoo, back on form. Just a thought.)
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I keep meaning to take my eldest lads skis out for a day on a nice piste day.
Going from 180’s & 88 wide to 163’s & 74 wide, just to see what difference I feel.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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@under a new name, I agree. Sometimes the perceived problem is not the underlying problem (and sometimes it is). Aside from unnecessary comments, Snowheads usually comes at a problem from a multitude of angles, which can be helpful.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@Cacciatore, titter! Yeah, re-hab going fine but will be December before any skiing
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I bought some piste skis this season at a grown up 94mm wide. Felt almost adult.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@Cacciatore, he he he.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| johnE wrote: |
| @Ski lots, You forgot to mention carry a rucksack with spare gloves, goggles, water, snacks and jumper in it. |
You forgot the ironing board.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Dave of the Marmottes wrote: |
| I bought some piste skis this season at a grown up 94mm wide. |
What?
| Dave of the Marmottes wrote: |
| Felt almost adult. |
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| Dave of the Marmottes wrote: |
| I bought some piste skis this season at a grown up 94mm wide. |
That's not a piste ski. An all-mountain ski with decent piste performance, perhaps.
The move to wider skis was driven, I thought, by their versatility in off as well as on-piste skiing, but they will always be compromised on decent pistes compared to a race-width ski.
Or am I missing something, like a actual reason why you'd want wider skis on piste?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| cringingwhinging wrote: |
| Ski lots wrote: |
| Isn’t SH great. Someone comes on and asks an innocent question and most of the responses answer a completely different one. I’m frankly surprised that the OP hasn’t been told that all his problems would be over if he would only fit winter tyres; wear a helmet; ski in Les Saises or anywhere in Austria. |
Got AT tyres on all our vehicles and haven't skied Austria for about 8 years, sorry.
Never worn a helmet for sking (or cycling) in my entire life. Hope that doesn't upset lots of users and cause them to post furiously in defence of bin lid wearing and its positive impact on the environment, Brexit or the cost of bread in Cornwall.
Thank you for your post. I was able to sift through the meaningless drivel posts that, hopefully, gave their authors some sort of validation in their miserable lives and get to the information I needed - largely looking for confirmation bias that I need another set of piste skis. |
Giving a bit more (adult?) thought to this, if you are considering a new set of planks, maybe the Salomon S Race? At 170, radius 16m, 70mm underfoot? I tested a longer version and thought they were fun. Agile, grippy, stable. 100% a piste ski. Not hugely demanding i.e. one didn’t have to be “on it” all the time. Nice for longer and shorter turns.
Just a thought.
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| Chaletbeauroc wrote: |
| Dave of the Marmottes wrote: |
| I bought some piste skis this season at a grown up 94mm wide. |
Or am I missing something, like a actual reason why you'd want wider skis on piste? |
Nah you're not really missing anything. Just coming down from wider skis to something that is a bit more versatile on groomers, bumps, skier packed off piste or when there's dust on crust. Can do the FIS weapon thing but then they aren't very versatile by design and your ass gets spanked in a full day.
Of course you do want wider skis on piste when you hit full spring spray n pray season.
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If YOU honestly believe YOU might benefit from a SOFTER flexing and NARROWER ski (easier to initiate and turn at lower speed which appears to be your now preferred province)...... If YOU genuinely believe THAT might be so........ As you appear to be in France, why not simply speak to one or two of several ski shops about your concern........? Who would be better to serve you.......? To give you sound, in person assessment......? Who......? Not me.
ps: Weight is NOT the issue.
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FAQ
) by 6..... 
….well, in your case, possibly the former until next season…
