 Poster: A snowHead
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Whence has this 'making memories' expression sprung? It's everywhere and I hate it. You do what you do and you remember what you remember. Sentimental nonsense. /rant. Sorry. 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| ster wrote: |
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Don’t understand those who go on a ski trip and have an early night every night, refuse apres, don’t drink or socialise in the evenings…..
Make memories. Come socialise with us. |
Too much socialising means less memories not more. |
But more grammer pedants inflamed 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| bezthespaniard wrote: |
Don’t understand those who go on a ski trip and have an early night every night, refuse apres, don’t drink or socialise in the evenings and ‘squeeze every second out of the mountain’.
Yes I get you love skiing. So do I.
But it’s a holiday. Chill out. Make memories. Come socialise with us. |
Most people ski 1-2 weeks per year. It makes sense that they want to maximise the time on snow. I can go out drinking any Fri/sat night the rest of the year. It makes less sense to me that people end up hungover or too tired to enjoy one of the few days each year they get to ski.
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@Hurtle, I guess making memories sounds a bit silly as it implies something actively being done, whereas remembering something is (usually) subconscious. However, now that people take so many photos and post about their lives on social media, perhaps "making memories" is a bit more active e.g. taking photos on skiing trips to help me to remember them in future years.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@bezthespaniard, Not sure I understand - what are the memories you want to make - sitting in a bar drinking or out in the the mountains skiing. Or creating false memories more glamorous than the real memories of the day's skiing. You have memories, you don't manufacture them.
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@johnE,
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You have memories, you don't manufacture them.
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Yes, that's what I meant, though denfinella has a point about photographs.
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But it’s a holiday. Chill out. Make love. Come socialise with us.
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Maybe not quite the same but why do people say,
"I'm reaching out to you".
Instead of, "I'm asking you".
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"I'm reaching out to you".
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Perhaps I have misunderstood this phrase but to me it means either literally "I am trying to get hold of you and drag out from this river" or metaphorically “I want to help you”
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@bezthespaniard, totally agree.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| johnE wrote: |
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"I'm reaching out to you".
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Perhaps I have misunderstood this phrase but to me it means either literally "I am trying to get hold of you and drag out from this river" or metaphorically “I want to help you” |
In my world it means someone wants to sell me something 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| DrLawn wrote: |
Maybe not quite the same but why do people say,
"I'm reaching out to you".
Instead of, "I'm asking you". |
I think I've turned full grumpy old man with cold calls. They garble through the who they are calling from so fast I make them stop and spell it. Then I ask so what do you want and put the phone down. Risk is one day it will be a work call which is why I answer in the first place.
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On a ski note, the thing I don’t get is a group of about 20 who “All” want to set off at the same time. Not 5 then a few seconds later another 5 but all 20 ski off and invariably come close to crashing into each other.
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You know it makes sense.
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@GlasgowCyclops, I don't get groups of 20.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I don't get people who see a decent lunch on the mountain as a waste of time, yet seem to struggle to cover what I would consider a reasonable amount of ground in a day. I came across this a quite a few times last year in conversation with other slope users, they seemed quite competent but skied in a full day what we had covered before elevenses while being adamant that stops were absolutely minimised as their skiing time was so precious. Some simply could not understand how it was possible to ski from Champoluc to Alagna and back in a day and also have a leisurely 3 course lunch. By observation this is mostly cause by a combination of faffing (hanging around the top of lifts) and constant stopping (not to appreciate the view, but to recuperate and faff some more).
Each to their own and all that, but for many of us there is more to the whole experience than just sliding on skis. It's not that I don't get those who just want to ski hard all day and are happy to minimise any stoppage time, I can understand that (even though I think they are missing a great part of the experience!). It's those who clearly don't ski that hard and express what a waste of time that a decent mountain lunch is that make no sense to me.
As for après - I thoroughly enjoy this aspect too. I don't at all get, however, why it seems to automatically be assumed it must involve over-imbibing to the extent that you miss skiing with a hangover the next day. Perfectly possible to enjoy some great apres without getting into that state.
Last edited by Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name: on Wed 12-07-23 12:55; edited 1 time in total
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Poster: A snowHead
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Perfectly possible to enjoy some great acres without getting into that state
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Can we please change to SI Units. The SI unit for area is hectare. (or even the UK tradditional unit of tennis court would do) 
Well this is a light hearted discussion
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| johnE wrote: |
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Perfectly possible to enjoy some great acres without getting into that state
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Can we please change to SI Units. The SI unit for area is hectare. (or even the UK tradditional unit of tennis court would do)
Well this is a light hearted discussion |
lol
What is the SI unit for apres?
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| zikomo wrote: |
| What is the SI unit for apres? |
A metre of ale.
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Cubic metre surely?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| johnE wrote: |
| (or even the UK tradditional unit of tennis court would do) |
I often wonder if there's an intermediate unit between a football pitch and an area the size of Wales.
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| zikomo wrote: |
What is the SI unit for apres? |
I don't know about that - but I know about the SI joint - which can jam up, if too much apres causes a tumble. 
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| Dave of the Marmottes wrote: |
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| bezthespaniard wrote: |
Don’t understand those who go on a ski trip and have an early night every night, refuse apres, don’t drink or socialise in the evenings…..
Make memories. Come socialise with us. |
Too much socialising means less memories not more. |
But more grammer pedants inflamed |
who presumably went to Grammar schools
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| DrLawn wrote: |
Maybe not quite the same but why do people say,
"I'm reaching out to you".
Instead of, "I'm asking you". |
'reaching out' seems more like 'I'm begging you to help me' without using the begging word.
It's all American newspeak language soup afaiks.
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| davidof wrote: |
who presumably went to Grammar schools |
Bait partially taken but abstractly wriggled off.
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| Dave of the Marmottes wrote: |
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who presumably went to Grammar schools |
Bait partially taken but abstractly wriggled off. |
it was good but maybe a bit obvious
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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@davidof,
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'reaching out' seems more like 'I'm begging you to help me'
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I think it can also mean I am offering to 'help' you. Dreadful expression either way.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Hurtle wrote: |
| ... 'reaching out' seems more like 'I'm begging you to help me' ...I think it can also mean I am offering to 'help' you. Dreadful expression either way. |
Oh. I think it means "I'm contacting you", at least that's where I've come across it. I'd expect it to be followed by "because..." and then something about where they got my contact details and what they want to contact me about.
The guy selling stuff door-to-door doesn't use it, because he's not "reaching out", he's just banging on the door.
I thought it was quite a nice metaphor, although not one I'd use. English is good that way.
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| DJL wrote: |
| Cubic metre surely? |
It's the metric equivalent of a yard of ale.
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You know it makes sense.
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| DJL wrote: |
| Cubic metre surely? |
It's the metric equivalent of a yard of ale. |
I wasn’t ENTIRELY serious  1000 litres is quite some après
Last edited by You know it makes sense. on Wed 12-07-23 18:52; edited 1 time in total
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| 195062 wrote: |
| DJL wrote: |
| Cubic metre surely? |
It's the metric equivalent of a yard of ale. |
Of 1.09 yards of ale, surely?
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Poster: A snowHead
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@davidof, or maybe even grammar schools 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| JayRo wrote: |
| Of 1.09 yards of ale, surely? |
Don't you mean 1 9/100 yards. We don't want to use these foreign decimal thingies. Mr Rees-Mogg won't like it.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| zikomo wrote: |
I don't get people who see a decent lunch on the mountain as a waste of time, yet seem to struggle to cover what I would consider a reasonable amount of ground in a day. I came across this a quite a few times last year in conversation with other slope users, they seemed quite competent but skied in a full day what we had covered before elevenses while being adamant that stops were absolutely minimised as their skiing time was so precious. Some simply could not understand how it was possible to ski from Champoluc to Alagna and back in a day and also have a leisurely 3 course lunch. By observation this is mostly cause by a combination of faffing (hanging around the top of lifts) and constant stopping (not to appreciate the view, but to recuperate and faff some more).
Each to their own and all that, but for many of us there is more to the whole experience than just sliding on skis. It's not that I don't get those who just want to ski hard all day and are happy to minimise any stoppage time, I can understand that (even though I think they are missing a great part of the experience!). It's those who clearly don't ski that hard and express what a waste of time that a decent mountain lunch is that make no sense to me.
As for après - I thoroughly enjoy this aspect too. I don't at all get, however, why it seems to automatically be assumed it must involve over-imbibing to the extent that you miss skiing with a hangover the next day. Perfectly possible to enjoy some great apres without getting into that state. |
I usually have a big breakfast, gnaw on snackbars throughout the morning & usually not very hungry for lunch. I am done by mid afternoon, so head off to get a decent table for Apres. Wrap up the Apres early evening, then go for an evening meal & in bed when the clock still ends in PM.
As you say, each to their own.
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| boarder2020 wrote: |
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Don’t understand those who go on a ski trip and have an early night every night, refuse apres, don’t drink or socialise in the evenings and ‘squeeze every second out of the mountain’.
Yes I get you love skiing. So do I.
But it’s a holiday. Chill out. Make memories. Come socialise with us. |
Most people ski 1-2 weeks per year. It makes sense that they want to maximise the time on snow. I can go out drinking any Fri/sat night the rest of the year. It makes less sense to me that people end up hungover or too tired to enjoy one of the few days each year they get to ski. |
A few years back a group of us went to VT. The majority of the group went to bed early and got up for the first lift of the day. No evening socialising or alcohol to be seen.
3 of us spent our days on the piste and evenings on the wee wee’ed*. One night we staggered in at 3am.
Overall, the early nighters skied 3 hours more than us in total, over a week.
But they missed 18 hours of evening debauchery and mischief.
I loved every second skiing but some of the evening memories are just as incredible if not more so. Especially the drunken VT pizza at 3am, debating which star was the North Star.
Ski trips are holidays. Most of us get limited weeks per year. And the fun isn’t just the moments on the slopes. It’s all the bits in between with our friends.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| johnE wrote: |
| @bezthespaniard, Not sure I understand - what are the memories you want to make - sitting in a bar drinking or out in the the mountains skiing. Or creating false memories more glamorous than the real memories of the day's skiing. You have memories, you don't manufacture them. |
As above. A ski trip is so much more than the moments on the snow.
For me, it’s playing Citizens board game and eating cheese with new friends, it’s giving apres salsa lessons to Singapore students, it’s getting lost in Chamonix and making 12 random Australian friends that I’m still in touch with a decade later.
I could go on, but if a ski trip is only about skiing for you, then I feel a tiny bit sorry for all the adventures you are missing out on.
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| MorningGory wrote: |
| @davidof, or maybe even grammar schools |
yes, standerds are slipping !
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Or creating false memories more glamorous than the real memories of the day's skiing. You have memories, you don't manufacture them.
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All memories are false memories - as in they are encoded engrams of an inaccurate and largely fabricated mental model, and recall is usually heavily embellished by current local factors, resulting in false reinforcement.
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| bezthespaniard wrote: |
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Don’t understand those who go on a ski trip and have an early night every night, refuse apres, don’t drink or socialise in the evenings and ‘squeeze every second out of the mountain’.
Yes I get you love skiing. So do I.
But it’s a holiday. Chill out. Make memories. Come socialise with us. |
Most people ski 1-2 weeks per year. It makes sense that they want to maximise the time on snow. I can go out drinking any Fri/sat night the rest of the year. It makes less sense to me that people end up hungover or too tired to enjoy one of the few days each year they get to ski. |
A few years back a group of us went to VT. The majority of the group went to bed early and got up for the first lift of the day. No evening socialising or alcohol to be seen.
3 of us spent our days on the piste and evenings on the wee wee’ed*. One night we staggered in at 3am.
Overall, the early nighters skied 3 hours more than us in total, over a week.
But they missed 18 hours of evening debauchery and mischief.
I loved every second skiing but some of the evening memories are just as incredible if not more so. Especially the drunken VT pizza at 3am, debating which star was the North Star.
Ski trips are holidays. Most of us get limited weeks per year. And the fun isn’t just the moments on the slopes. It’s all the bits in between with our friends. |
But late nights and alcohol effect different people differently. Maybe the ones that didn't get hammered and stay out till 3am, did that because they knew that it would impact their skiing the next day. Generally the ones that stay out that late, do it knowing that they'll still get out the next day.
I did the 3am nights in VT up till my late 30's and it was great fun - now I'm older I prefer to do have a few beers but to be in bed by 11. I now look back to myself in my 20's and think that, while it was great fun, that maybe we needed the alcohol to aide the fun whereas I don't so much now, 4-5 beers is perfect for me, and we still have a good laugh. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
That said, I do agree that a skiing trip isn't just about the skiing - and the bits I enjoy most are having a beer in the sun in the mountains with friends or family. That's my happy space.
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3 nights on the p1ss with a decent meal vs stay in and have a cheap meal at home = 1 day of helicopter rides.
It’s all about priorities 
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FH, its cheap in NZ!
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