Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Nice- lovely part of the world up there
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Nice pictures of parts we don't usually see!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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pam w wrote: |
Nice pictures of parts we don't usually see! |
it is a long way from anywhere
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Nice pictures of parts we don't usually see! |
Ooh! Matron! I must've missed those and just looked at the skiing snaps!
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pam w wrote: |
Nice pictures of parts we don't usually see! |
What are the XC pics I've been posting then over the last six years or so, as that's all in my front garden
As @davidof, knows, Monetier, Le Casset, Boussardes, are all my local cross country routes he did, though I tend to steer clear of the black.
Also St Crépin has one of the few Michelin restos on our neck of the woods, but we've never been there.
As an amusing aside today, we had 10+cms of fresh and a couple of times I saw the same guy with what could only be described as a shite-eating-grin, in the end I said to him that he must be English, and he said Yes, but asked how I knew, and I said because of his smile as he was just enjoying the conditions so much, to which he then replied that he's lived in the Belledonne for the past 30 years (Davidoff's neck of the woods), and that today was the best day, and the closest he's come to Winter all season, and how he never usually skis in resort
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@davidof, really great write up, enjoyable to read.
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Pamski wrote: |
@davidof, really great write up, enjoyable to read. |
+1
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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@davidof, further up from Vallouise is Ailefroide and the long drag up to Pré de Madame Carle, which used to nestle just below the two big glaciers up there which like all the others have receeded in the last 50 or so years.
https://www.paysdesecrins.com/decouvrir/incontournables-dans-le-massif-des-ecrins/sites-d-exception/pre-de-madame-carle-ete
The actual valley is one of the busiest camping valleys in France during the Summer!
We cycle it a couple of times a year and it's a deceptively long and tough climb.
Many years ago we climbed up the Dome de Monetier glaciers and snowboarded down the Classic Combe du Riou (center of map) and then all the way back to Aileforide where the road is open.
But what even this map shows is how those glaciers were really low and now you can hardly see them!
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Weathercam wrote: |
The actual valley is one of the busiest camping valleys in France during the Summer!
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I must have been there in end of May-ish because we were the only people camping - about 12 of us in a few tents and there was no one taking money for the pitches. I guess this links to that thread saying the French only holiday for 2 weeks in August.
We did go up to Ailefroide but didn't walk to the glacier, even 30 years ago it was a way up the valley but we did cross some ski tourers coming down from the Ecrins.
We were rafting and mountain biking, I only ski toured in the winter at the time, it never occurred to me to go in May but it would have been quite good back in the day.
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Great report, cheers @davidof,
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You know it makes sense.
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Last day and Molines / St Veran said they'd pisted the road to the Col d'Agnel on the Italian border. There had been 20cm or so of fresh snow so it would be a bit soft but the day looked to be wall to wall sunshine. The trail is used by dog sledders but they are not supposed to be on the road the day after pisting but there would be Walkers and snowshoers so worth arriving early. I quit my digs and drove through the beautiful Queyras valley up to Molines.
The car park at the trail head was full, but mainly ski tourers who were going to take advantage of the excellent conditions but a couple of cross country skiers were up the road. Someone very heavy footed judging by the large, deep tracks he was leaving.
For the first few km you climb on the left bank on a dedicate cross country trail, this has a nasty, steep zig-zag to wake you up from the get go but then descends into the middle of the valley. In the distance, 9km according to the pisteur, the Colli dell'Agnello. It is really a cyclists col and there are some excellent tours straddling the border. Pain au chocolat for breakfast, pizza for lunch and erm, whatever they eat in the Hautes-Alpes for dinner... Les oreilles d'âne (donkey's ears) maybe?
after this photo you cross over a bridge and onto the real climb. Flattish at first for the first 3.5km from Fontgillard but slowly but surely the screw turns. I was reguarly passing groups of ski tourers who respectful left a wide gap when I approached. Sometimes they would zig-zag up from a hairpin so I would have to keep up the pace to make sure I didn't repass them when the rejoined the road above.
After the flat there is a ramp of over 10% then 3.5km between 7 and 10%. 7% is okay, 10% is hard and now closing in on 2500 meters with less and less oxygen. This time two short hair pins to gain height, 2400m and the refuge d'Agnel was in view, the road was twisting and turning and so was my head in the thin mountain air. Last group of ski tourers before the summit. I was trying to place my skis as high as possible with each step. The lead tourer kept pace with me for a dozen meters then abandonned the effort.
A longer section of over 10% past the refuge. Two cross country skiers hauled past me on the final bends. Two more were further down the slope. I picked up the pace as I saw that after the last hairpin the road flattened out to "just" 7%, a final sprint to the col and I'd made it. I'd actually distanced the two following skiers but it had taken me over 2 hours for the climb, they started 15 minutes after me.
Summit photos. 2750 meters. Then a quick ski down in some very pleasant, soft snow. The major excitement on the descent were groups of walkers blocking the trail and some climbing cross country skiers, one who was looking down and I only got him to leave me the meagrest of gaps when I cried "hop hop hop" to wake him up. The peaks around the col began to be tracked by the ski tourers who'd started early in the day. It was neither that cold nor windy at the col but I was very pleased to have worn thick ski gloves rather than cross country gloves. The climb was 10km, 20km for the round trip although it is possible to join the cross country trails of St Veran but I had to be in Grenoble for the early afternoon.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@davidof, wow, sounds like hard work.
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