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Sorry but since when exactly do ski instructors talk about "pizza slices" rather than snowploughs? My kids recently started learning and I now hear of this new terminology.
Wtf was wrong with the term "snowplough"? Was it not "diverse" enough and offended someone???
Talk of pizzas should end here right now. 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I like it. Something the kids can relate to when they have no idea what a snow plough is. Appreciate it may blow your and other peoples' minds though. 
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Pizza slice and fries is more relatable to a child compared with snow plough and parallel 
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@Pyramus, they're probably on commission for every group they take into the mountain pizza emporium. What next? Tartiflette Turn? Fondue Flop? Diot Idiot Incursion*?
* off pister suddenly rejoins piste without looking up or down the piste
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Yes, I do sometimes use pizza and fries/chips for British or US-influenced kids, who have grown up with the concept that a pizza is something that comes in wedge-shaped slices. Couple that with the fact that many of them would never have encountered a snowplough, so that terminology would be alien.
I don't like it myself, but if it works then why not?
Many Europeans, and particularly adults, are much more used to pizzas being circular, and are also likely to be more aware of snowploughs (from driving) so I find that plough/parallel often works better for them. Younger kids often don't know what parallel means, so it's better to use the much simpler analogy they can get their heads round.
Last edited by After all it is free  on Fri 20-01-23 10:35; edited 1 time in total
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All this dumbing down of terminology is doing no-one any good.
If they had to change why not “slice of flan” and “julienne of carrot”?
Surely as relatable?
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@Alastair Pink, love it. Never heard the terms used for skiing before, but I can see why it works.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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They have square microwave pizzas here in Sweden so that would definitely mess the kids up...
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When was the last time you saw a wedge shaped snowplough?? They're nearly all straight, angled blades these days.
Pizza / fries has been around for as long as I can remember.
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| ster wrote: |
| “slice of flan” |
Come on...who under 60 has ever made a flan...?
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You know it makes sense.
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Personally I think it was a retrograde step when they dropped the term "stem christie"..... 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Was it not "diverse" enough and offended someone???
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Well, it seems to have now. Come and take up snowboarding; its less rage-inducing, and if you find you're 'pizzaing' something has gone very wrong indeed.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Pizza is not only used in skiing, on dive rescue courses the "victim" shouts PIZZA! to be rescued rather than HELP! so as not to alert the actual rescue services of other divers nearby.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@prometheus, does that not cause confusion to aquatic pizza delivery services though?
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| ster wrote: |
All this dumbing down of terminology is doing no-one any good.
If they had to change why not “slice of flan” and “julienne of carrot”?
Surely as relatable? |
Yes exactly!!
Seems like US terminology on this has become global which is unfortunate.
How about a European version? "Slice of sachertorte" and "Mille Feuille"
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I like having the Stem Christie in the tool bag, too. Not used often - but can get me out of jail.
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@Alastair Pink,
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Personally I think it was a retrograde step when they dropped the term "stem christie"
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Didn't know it had been dropped. Who had the authority to?
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@Richard_Sideways, surely you do hot dogging.
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Come and take up snowboarding; its less rage-inducing, and if you find you're 'pizzaing' something has gone very wrong indeed
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Ploughing the M1 through the mashed potato then 
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@GlasgowCyclops, hot dogging? Sounds more like a skier pastime.
speaking of which - wft is a Stem Christie? Or a Royal Christie? Sounds like something sickly you order in shots at the bar.
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"fighters" and "bombers"
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yeah but.... which is which?
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You know it makes sense.
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@GlasgowCyclops, hot dogging? Sounds more like a skier pastime.
speaking of which - wft is a Stem Christie? Or a Royal Christie? Sounds like something sickly you order in shots at the bar. |
Don't worry about it, as Sondre Norheim knew nothing about new fangled Snowboards, which only appeared 100 years later. 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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When I first heard "pizza" and "fries" used in skiing (2 years ago) I thought the instructor was asking the child what they wanted for dinner.
These terms are very confusing especially for English children who are properly wondering what "fries" are. When did that term start being used for spaghetti?
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I thought "pizza slice" was a massive improvement.
The "snow plough" word was just like that "stem christie" type speak, something from ancient times which oldsters banged on about. It smelt bad and was something to get away from as quickly as possible, like boy scout leaders.
The US people used to call wedge turns... wedge turns, which I also thought was a more sensible name.
I'm not sure what percentage of snow ploughs push snow both ways, but most of them I encounter are at a single angle of attack.
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These terms are very confusing especially for English children who are properly wondering what "fries" are
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I feel like most kids know what fries are tbh. Especially as both are used in the UK now, fries being the thin ones like you get at McDonalds or with Steak Frites, and chips being the chunkier ones which are more traditional in the UK.
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| Mjit wrote: |
Austria and you'll hear ski instructors shouting "fighters" and "bombers" at their little ski school trains. A true double-take moment the first time we heard that one  |
Ah-ha....the good old Vulcan bomber!! 100% going to get the kids into this terminology. Who needs pizza when you can shout "vulcan bomber!" at the little snotty nosed brats!
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I'm not sure what percentage of snow ploughs push snow both ways
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Snow ploughs on trains push both ways, road ploughs only push to the left (or right in countries who drive on the wrong side) so they don't just push it onto the other side of the road or shower snow onto oncoming traffic
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Language excludes, I know what I want you to do , I just need to put it into words you understand.
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@Legend., butbutbut... bombers traditionally fly in line astern formation to put bombs on target, while fighters fly in v-formation...
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| NBH wrote: |
| Pizza slice and fries is more relatable to a child compared with snow plough and parallel |
Pizza and chips made a massive difference in understanding to our youngest this year.
It also proved a good incentive to get him down an icy Folyeres for lunch!
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I still use the term stem christie. In fact I'm a sod for doing it after a long day and my weaker leg is knackered on a steep bit! And I totally get pizza and chips.
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