 Poster: A snowHead
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a 'theory' question, as I can't find an answer, or much discussion
What 'weight' should* one use for DIN calcs - 'doctors' weight (i.e bare naked on the scales), or 'real' weight (with clothing and backpack as applicable).
*[where 'should' means "what did the people who wrote ISO11088 have in mind]
Obvs this makes a difference to the actual DIN calc... potentially a large difference depending on where exactly one sits on the boundaries of the DIN std.
To be clear - I'm really only interested in whether there is an official answer, and what it is... I'm well aware of the consequences of natural variation, and the reality that there are other factors that might vary DIN (such as 'aggresiveness' level).
fwiw, I'm on the cusp of one of the weight categories, but I could easily imagine a situation where I was skiing with more than 9kg of 'additional weight'.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@hamilton, I doubt many docs will weigh you bare naked, it will only be you doing that in the privacy of your own home I think.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@hamilton, you are probably overthinking this a bit! If you are in the cusp of two weight classes the difference in DIN setting will be small (0.5). It could be that you would be better with 0.5 more or 0.5 less than the chart says anyway. It is far from an exact science. Best advice I would give is for piste skiing have the DIN set as low as you can while avoiding pre-release.
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For the avoidance of doubt, my question was only 'what weight did ISO have in mind'.... I'm well aware of the consequence of the outcome and I'm quite capable of choosing a din in comfortable with.
The diff between 'naked' and underclothed is a few hundred grammes.... My ski clothing is about a kilo, boots and pack add another 7.... Which is nearly an entire din group.
Anyway, there's at least one snowhead who will know the answer....
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I suspect the DIN setting is calculated to reflect the load the leg / knee can sustain without injury so in this case the weight you should be using is your body weight as this is being used as a proxy for your likely leg / knee strength (including things like bone density, bone thickness, body mass, tissue strength, how much it's accustomed to heavy loads, etc).
All the addons you carry will affect the load you might apply to your leg / knee but have no effect on the ability of the leg / knee to support that load.
Last edited by Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do. on Tue 17-01-23 17:41; edited 5 times in total
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Pretty sure it's naked weight.
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If on the ‘cusp’ so to speak go one notch less tension, but no more. Better than the converse.
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