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I have a can of dry PTFE spray GT45 and was wondering what effect it would have on skis to make them glide quicker. Any thoughts ?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I think "gone in sixty seconds" is most likely 
Interested to see following opinions here.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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 Surely much cheaper than all the dedicated spray ons, juice etc! Not a clue how it performs or if it's safe for the bases but can't see any reason why not to try it, let me know if you give it a go!
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A bit of thread drift, but as regards fluorocarbons there's disturbing news about the contamination levels of these 'forever chemicals' in US freshwater fish. It would be interesting to know the comparison levels for UK freshwater fish......
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@Alastair Pink, Daily Mail? Really? You should know better!
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Feels like a bad thing for almost immediately and completely transferring chemicals into snowpack. Is there anything it will bond to in a ski base beyond the edges?
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Well PTFE is Teflon by another name, so slippy stuff, still a flurocarbon though.
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@Alastair Pink, @Dave of the Marmottes, I stand duly chastised! Silly idea it is.
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Yep, another vote for “we have enough PTFEs in the world already”
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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@Dave of the Marmottes, it should get wedged into the pores on a sintered base, as long as you can strip all the wax out first, but essentially no, not really.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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The PTFE spray will be particles of PTFE in a volatile carrier liquid which evaporates off to leave the PTFE loosely bound to the surface, ok on gears & chains where it is two surfaces constantly rubbing against each other & transferring the PTFE back & forth but on the bae of a ski it will stay there for about the first 2 meters before it is all transferred to the snow.
Molecules of molten wax are almost infinitely smaller than a PTFE particle and deeply penetrate the pores of a ski base where they bind to the surface much more stongly.
From an eco friendly point of view, what is natural beeswax like on skis?
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yeah... it works. For at least a day or more.
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You know it makes sense.
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Mom sprayed it ("Scotchguard") on my jeans for waterproofing in 1969. It lasted about five minutes and I now have three heads. So sure, go ahead!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| tangowaggon wrote: |
| From an eco friendly point of view, what is natural beeswax like on skis? |
Haven't yet tried it to find out, buuuu-t, have been blending beeswax (other uses not ski directly related) with castor oil to shift application viscosity. Blend 1:1 by volume and heated to integrate ( heating instructions:- get small microwave sticky toffee pudding from aldi, eat pudding, container is microwave proof for small batch heating of test sample ) gently heat and mix to blend, assess after cooling for consistency and decide mix ratio to best suit winter temperature range etc.
Mix of 3:1 castor to beeswax gives very good leather treatment for walking boots etc. Highly hydrophobic, absorbed by leather effectively, and stays/promotes flexibility in footwear.
Mixed 2:1 ish, gives start point for cycle chain wax, very high shear properties of castor to support load, beeswax for retention, environmental lubricant.
Someone will come along and tell us we should not put anything like this on our bases though 
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