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Tignes and Tignes-Val D'Isere (formerly Espace Killy) 2022/3. Useful links on Page 1

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Autumn is here, so it must be time to make a start.

Hopefully we will be having something close to a normal season despite threats of double pandemics, power shortages, wars, economic worries and the odd snowHeads troll doom-mongering. Again, I won't be in Tignes for the whole season, but more than last year. So, the daily updates will start when I get there and stop when I'm not!

As ever at this time of year not all the websites have been loaded with this year's stuff so be patient, if a link that is sleeping now isn't working later just highlight it to me and I'll edit

Tignes Main Site (official):
https://en.tignes.net/
Ski passes:
https://www.skipass-tignes.com/en/
Bus Transfers
Daily from Geneva (As at 1 Oct Geneva not yet avail for purchase), and Fri, Sat and Sun from Lyon which are available! (no Chambery this year):
http://www.altibus.com/
Weekends from Geneva and Grenoble, Lyon Sat only this year):
https://www.bensbus.co.uk/ski-transfer/tignes-airport-transfers/
Private Transfers (Operator based locally):
https://themountainrescue.com/
Private transfer based in Val D, also do shared transfers to Tignes and Val D, max 8, departing GVA up to every hour
https://snow-drone.com/ Discount code snowheads05 (5% discount on transfers from 17 Dec to 16 April 23). All journeys 100% carbon offset.

Someone to organise your holiday:
https://peakfeeling-ski.com/ Based in Tignes, the team will organise everything after the airport arrivals lounge, transfers, self catering apt (with a chef if required), catered chalet, instruction, kit hire, lift passes, child care etc. They also cover other resorts in France - but why would you go anywhere else?

Can't be bothered to cook in a self catering apt:
https://hu.ski/
Ski Instruction (British Staff):
http://www.ski-instruction-tignes.co.uk/default.aspx
https://ultimatesnowsports.com/ski/tignes-skiing-lessons/
https://www.skinewgen.com/ski-schools/tignes/ (multinational but fluent English speaking staff)
http://www.tdcski.com
Another multinational school in Val Claret
https://www.333school.com/
Off Piste Adventure and training (British staff)
https://www.facebook.com/TignesOffPisteOfficial/
Weather:
http://www.meteofrance.com/previsions-meteo-montagne/tignes/73320
Route Info (Savoie Only):
http://savoie-route.fr/
Avalanche Reports (Meteo France):
http://www.meteofrance.com/previsions-meteo-montagne/bulletin-avalanches/savoie/avdept73
Live Lift Status:
http://www.skiplan.com/bulletin/bulletin.php?station=tignes&region=alpes&pays=france&lang=fr
http://www.skiplan.com/bulletin/bulletin.php?station=val-d-isere&region=alpes&pays=france&lang=fr
Bus Timetable from Bourg:
http://altibus.com/documents/gares/9/navettes.pdf (still on summer at the moment)
Val-Tignes (for repatriation of lost souls that missed the last lift or for a spot of (even more) expensive shopping!):
https://www.tignes.net/sejour/deplacement/la-navette-tignes-val-disere
Ski Rental and new boots:
My two 'go to' shop owners have entered Happy Retirement, I'll be on the prowl when I get there. Please post good or bad feedback!
Purveyors of fine craft ales to those who have had enough eurofizz:
http://sapaudiabrewing.co/


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Thanks @chocksaway, as ever!

Last year I posted info about parking. This year's info started as a re-hash of how things were at the end of the last season but so much has changed that I've almost had to start from scratch. Hoping there's no errant left over info from 2021/22 - if you do spot anything that needs correcting please do post or message. Having now (end of November) arrived in Tignes I've been able to tour around the place and see what the situation is 'on the ground'. I've also been able to have a chat with the very helpful staff in the parking office - no sarcasm intended, they really are tryers.

The main headline to take away is that THE DAYS OF FREE PARKING ARE LARGELY OVER!

Parking in the open air car parks in Les Brevieres, Les Boisses and Tignes 1800 was traditionally free. However, an update to the Tignes parking site (https://www.tignes.net/sejour/parkings) now quotes nightly rates for using Les Brevieres. When I logged an enquiry with Tignes they confirmed that "rates and conditions are no longer the same as in previous years". They sent a link saying information on parking can be found here: www.indigoneo.fr/en or here: https://fr.parkindigo.com/parkings/tignes-france . Some of it still appears to be a 'work in progress' but as at the start of November there are reports of it having been successfully navigated and parking purchased.

Les Brévières

There are three car parks which used to be free all year round but two of them are now definitely chargeable during the main winter season (late Nov through early May). They are fenced and barriered with a tariff board at the entrance of each. They are open-air and there are no height restrictions on any of them. As you arrive into Les Brev., North car park is on your right before you enter the village. If you keep going all the way through and out the other end, you will end up in South carpark - there is literally nowhere else to go. During super-snowy periods South car park is prone to avalanches during times of high risk (when it's level 5 mostly, but potentially also when it's level 4). You will not be able to retrieve your car from South car park if avalanche closure is announced - the road is physically blocked. Tune in to the Tignes App to get warned but rest assured during normal snowfall it's not an issue. South is the most convenient one to access the bubble and this is the only public link - there is no shuttle bus. So unless you are staying in Les Brev. you have to time your parking to be able to access the bubble or have a mate who can give you a lift up or get a taxi. Returning to your car is easier, as there is a shuttle between the next village up (Tignes 1800) and Le Lac and from 1800 you can ski down to Brev. on a blue piste. This is, of course, strictly forbidden when pistes are closed...

I mentioned three car parks. There is a small one behind the old Chalet Chardons building / Intersport ski rental shop. Go past North car park and then take the very next turning on the right. It's a tight turn - you may need more than one bite to get around. Down a ramp and hang a left (single track and a blind bend). As at the end of November the entrance is signed with a P and has "Tetras Lodge" underneath it and there are no signs in the main part suggesting it is private, just a warning that camper vans will get towed. Best not to use this parking unless you have good snow tyres / are prepared to put chains on / don't mind crashing the car on the ramp and bend. It mostly used to be used by locals and seasonnaires. Indigo, the new parking contractor claim no knowledge of this car park and insist they do not manage it. Feel free to take your chances...

At super busy times, there is a fourth option. Parking is tolerated on the right hand side of the road as you approach the village, just before the North car park and on the road just outside South car park. This will require a parking permit this winter which you buy by trying to get into the full car park and letting the machine issue you with a ticket. You are not permitted to park on the road if the car parks have space.

Camper vans: these are not allowed in Les Brevieres or any of the Tignes villages for overnight stays. The Municipal Police generally knock on the door of new arrivals and offer their advice, which is to move on, unless you are parking for the day or staying in accommodation somewhere. Exceptionally gnarly-looking seasonnaires seem to be left alone.

Tignes 1800

Most of the parking here is private and part of an apartment block or development. However a small free open-air car park does still exist: from the Tignes 1800 roundabout, go towards the village, following "Route d'Eté " signs, then keep right at the barracks following along the plastic tunnel over the magic carpet. Parking is at the end of the road / buildings. Only about 20 spaces. Height restriction of 2.20m using a swing barrier. Beware: there is a clue in the name of the access road: "Route d'Eté"... during December this parking becomes hors-de-service - as it's turned into a piste for the winter. Tignes 1800 is inked by shuttle bus (see Les Boisses) once you have walked to the roundabout (where the bus stop is).

Blondin

However... A brand new car park for about 150 cars has been built the other side of the roundabout next to the heliport. The good news is that it looks like it's going to be free again for 22/23. The less good news is that it also looks like it's reserved for working seasonnaires only. You will need to obtain a permit and display it in the window to be legally parked here. To get the permit (a paper A5 sheet with Tignes branding and the car reg) present your proofs of work/living/car ownership/personal id by email (only) to the Tignes municipal police. Open air and no height restrictions. If coming into Tignes 1800 along the road atop the dam, take the 3rd exit on the roundabout, past the Auto Centre 1800 petrol station / garage (on your left) and head up a steep-ish zig-zag gravel track for about 300 metres.

Montayes

Don't attempt to go into the barrier-controlled parking opposite the petrol station - this is reserved for seasonnaires staying in the accommodation that surrounds it - or at least has been for many years but this season, who knows!?

Les Boisses

For a skier or walker, it can be hard to tell where Les Boisses begins and Tignes 1800 ends but access by car is quite different for the two. To get into Les Boisses, if you are coming along the road on top of the dam go straight across at the roundabout in Tignes 1800 and up the steep ramp-like road heading to Tignes Le Lac. Take the first turning on the right, which appears straight after the second hairpin bend. At the very end of the road is the Les Boisses parking. Used to be free all year round but is now be chargeable and only residents can buy a pass, which comes with a remote control to open the barrier. Open air and liked by shuttle bus. This is 2 buses morning / 2 buses evening during early season (early season, not pre-season; there's no bus at all pre-season) and then starting Christmas week every 30 minutes up till about 10pm. This is a separate shuttle from the one I will mention below and runs just between Le Lac and 1800. On the way up the bus goes in and out of Les Boisses; on the way down it skips it so just stay sat on board while the driver has a fag in 1800 and he'll drop you in Les Boisses a short while later.

There are only about 50 spaces. Height restriction: 2.25 metres using a swing barrier which may or may not be locked by the snow-clearing chaps.

Tignes Le Lac - Lavachet - Almes - Rosset

Le Lavachet

Covered parking, short-stay or long stay. Height restriction 2.65m enforced by the building being made of reinforced concrete. Linked by shuttle bus to Le Lac and Val Claret till around 4pm pre-season and 24/7 during season proper. What more can I say...

Le Lac 1

Covered parking which used to be reserved for seasonnaires only but now can be used by the public including advance reservations. Height restriction 1.95m. Access as below for Lac 2, but go past Lac 2 and turn right.

Le Lac 2

Covered parking around the corner from Lac 1. Access if coming up from the dam is using a side road (left) opposite the Taxi Office (big yellow TAXIS sign) / Intersport, just before the first roundabout. If you miss it and reach the roundabout, go all the way round and then first right. Height restriction 2.20m. Short and long term OK.

Le Lac 3

The parking of choice for most folk stopping in Tignes Le Lac. Covered and situated underneath the "Maison de Tignes" tourist office and handy to access ski school meeting points and lifts. Short-term and long-term parking OK. Height restriction 2.25m. The main parking enquiries office is located in this car park.

Le Rosset

Covered parking on the borders of Le Lac and Lavachet just by the Rosset beginners' chair lift. Long-stay (ie more than 24 hours) only. You have to buy a ticket in advance on line or at the Le Lac 3 office. Height restriction 2.25m. Linked by the same shuttle bus as above.

Val Claret

Golf

Covered parking on the edge of Val Claret. Height restriction 2.30m. Short-term and long-term parking OK. Golf has two entrances. The first one you see on the left as you start up the hill is for season-pass holders; the main public one is higher, going left as you enter the town. Not directly linked by shuttle - you have to walk down the hill to the big roundabout by Ecrins hotel, then turn left to get the bus at Platieres or right to get the bus at Chartreux. The walk is about 8-10 mins. Or you can walk into town, past the Bureau des Guides, turn right and take the Platieres lift (elevator) down to the Platieres bus stop.

Grande Motte

Open air parking on what's left of the plateau where the new Club Med building now stands. Can be used for day parking during pre-season. Last year this parking was reserved for seasonaires; now it is open to the public and looks like it can be reserved in advance (which never used to be the case). Linked by the same shuttle bus as above to the lifts and other Tignes villages. Height restriction 2.30m by swing barrier.

Boulcel Sud

This is open-air, just up a little higher than Golf. Seasonnaire-only using a pre-purchased remote control. From memoery 2.2m restriction by swing barrier but need to check.

Other parking info

High Season

During peak weeks (eg New Year, February half term) the car parks in Le Lac, Lavachet and Val Claret completely fill up and you may have to park on the street. This is NOT FREE and it is only allowed in controlled areas where there is enough road-side space. To park on the street you have to pay and get a ticket on arrival from the main parking information office in Lac 3 car park.

Residential Parking

You may be lucky and get a private parking space assigned that belongs to the place where you are staying, but this is rare. For much of the open-air parking in Tignes that looks like it's associated with specific residential developments you will see a P (parking) sign next to it, with 'MACARON' written underneath. What that means is that to park there you first have to go to the main Tignes parking office and present them with your flat ownership / season let contract / season work contract and buy a space for the season. You then get your macaron, which is a permit to display in the window. Without the macaron you are liable to get towed (but usually leafleted beforehand).

Au Bon Coin

Some flat owners let out their parking spaces for the season or by the week. Take a peek on Au Bon Coin. These spaces will generally be in locations other than the public parking listed above. You will need to check for yourself what specific restrictions they may have (eg height).

Val d'Isere

There is less need to explain parking arrangements across at the neighbours' as their website (link at the end at @muppet's suggestion, thx) covers so much more of what you might need to know. Unlike in Tignes, the prices vary according to the convenience of the parking, namely, how close it is to the centre of town and whether it is covered. If you need a season pass, the rate you pay is similar to Tignes, but they do not require the proofs (eg employment or rental contracts) - anyone can buy a pass. Options for free parking are very, very limited: you have to head right up to the end of the valley to Le Fornet and even there, it is limited to 48 hours max (but is linked by the local shuttle bus). There is also some road-side parking outside the town limits along the main D902 but there is no bus link so you are reliant on hitching a lift or asking friends to get you to/from your car; walking not advised as it's a busy road with many blind bends and drivers not expecting pedestrians. More info here: https://www.parkingvaldisere.com/


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So, what's new in the Zoo for this year.

On the chairlift front, we will have a new Aiguille Rouge Chair which should speed up the queues and reduce the bottle neck on the Marais Plateau. Hopefully this will be followed by a new Marais Chair up to the Eye in a later year. I'm not sure what the priority is for next summer, this or the new Tichot Gondola, it may well be the first to pass the planning battles. I haven't heard of any new facilities in Val, but Steve A will know when he returns from his summer off ( Laughing ).

Apart from lots of new buildings opening, the biggest changes are probably to the lift pass charging structure. There are new age ranges:
0-7 free, 8 to 18 about a 20% reduction, 65 - 74 about a 20% reduction and 75 and over free. Also, all ski passes beyond 6 days have a bonus freebie. If you pay for 6-11 you get one day added ie 6 days paid = 7 days ski, and if you pay for 12 to 13 days you get 2 more days added on. There is also a 15 day non consecutive days pass, valid all season. In addition, there is promise of a Tignes a la Carte, but that part of the website is not yet running. Is your head hurting yet? Not sure about the free day thing, I wonder if its to try and get the French owners travelling on a Sunday or a Friday (lots now leave late Friday night....) It's not much use for the majority on a standard week but it makes the train more attractive maybe, especially as the Eurostar charter is owned by CdA who own STGM and numerous other lift operators?

Oh, Thanks to ousekjarr for locking the old thread.
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Thanks @chocksaway - you forgot to mention on the lift pass side of things re the day rate translates into the multi day rate without a discount for 6 consecutive days over buying 6 x 1 day passes surely! Unless Tignes is different???? Anyway Im doing my monthly updates still over the 'Summer' and will do another in a wee while when ive sorted my blooming car out which is stranded with a flat and can't get the wheel off as the locking wheel nut has stuck - doh!
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when ive sorted my blooming car out which is stranded with a flat and can't get the wheel off as the locking wheel nut has stuck - doh!


Oh dear... sorry to hear that Steve. On my last three cars I have insisted that the dealer removes any locking wheel nuts and replaces them with normal ones, just for this reason (and that it would be even worse in the middle of a blizzard on a mountain road). Let us know how you eventually sort it (I've always found Auto Center 1800 very good btw if you get desperate).
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@Steve Angus, Good spot, we had a rambling discussion over the summer, but I forgot!

But in summary folks a 6 day pass is the same price as 6 x 1 day passes. So might be worth checking the weather and buy accordingly.

There is also a discount of €100 for those needing 2 adult and 2 kids passes online.

As for locking wheel nuts, I did away with them when I tried to change to my winters and had to drive back to the garage with 3 winters and 1 summer tyre (slowly!). The adapter gizmos are really not up to the job for a hand spanner by the roadside (on an Audi anyway).
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Is the 15 day non consecutive pass cheaper than buying 3x5 day passes? I’m pondering a pre Xmas trip so this might be a good idea for a second trip.
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Is the 15 day non consecutive pass cheaper than buying 3x5 day passes?

The prices page shows that it is cheaper.
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@bobski62,

Is it worth adding the Val d’Isere parking link to your Tignes parking info ?

https://www.parkingvaldisere.com/#/mobile-payment/offstreet/valdisere/home

Val d’Isere/SAGS have increased the parking prices by approximately 8% for this coming season
but are currently offering a 10% early booking discount.
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Yes, I can do that @muppet; my experience of parking in Val d'Isere and using their website has been a lot more positive than in Tignes. The website has much more of the info you need (such as any height limits) and there have been fewer restrictions when trying to get a season pass. In fact, for reasons too convoluted to explain, I have in the past even parked in Val d'Isere when actually staying in Tignes.
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Thanks to everyone for all the info posted about the coming season. Much appreciated.
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Re Ski Rental - happy to recommend Duch Sports. They are just beneath/next to the Careerfour on Rue de Poste. They operate a Skimium franchise, but I contacted them direct and ordered and paid on site. They let us pay at the end which was great as my daughter hurt her knee so we only paid for the 3 days we used rather than 7. Oliver is the chap who runs it - https://www.duch-sports-tignes.com/en/duch-sports-l-hiver-1
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Wow - some big changes on the pricing structure and they look nicely positive.
Promo season pass last year was 1115 which included the summer season.
This year winter season only is 990 and there doesn’t seem to be a ‘buy by end of oct/nov’ promo deadline.
Two season passes for us…

Friends who are frequent visitors will love the 15 non-conseq days option!
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@chocksaway,

The 2022/23 ski pass prices for Val D (and therefore Tignes) are being increased because of the cost of electricity.

They have suspended sales of ski passes until they have worked out the revised prices.
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I thought the Adult 6 Day Pass had risen to €360 - but some sites show it at €324 and €334 (Liberté). There appears to be some confusion (or maybe it's just me).
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@Old Fartbag, I found an early season at 312, but main season at 360 for an adult. I can only see Liberte for the 3V. ( Or is that just me!)

@welshflyer, It wouldn't surprise me if they went up, but heard nothing on official or unofficial networks.
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chocksaway wrote:
@Old Fartbag, I found an early season at 312, but main season at 360 for an adult. I can only see Liberte for the 3V. ( Or is that just me!)

From your link at the top of the page: https://www.skipass-tignes.com/en/tous-tarifs-hiver

From VDI website: https://www.valdisere.ski/en/tarifs-forfait
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@Old Fartbag, I didn't check that! Everything has changed since Saturday. The Liberte seems to be a new marketing buzzword. So a day pass has gone up about 6%, a season pass nearly 50%! Some of the page links don't work. More homework!
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@chocksaway,

As regards ski passes for Val D everything changed last Friday or Saturday. Up until then they were advertsing a season's pass for me at €820. During the weekend they were saying prices were being reviewed due to the cost of electricity and that sales would start soon.

Today they are saying the sale of lift passes will commence mid October.

Some of the internet links above are now out of date. We basically have to go to the most up to date website links to find out what the situation is.
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The link three posts above from @Old Fartbag currently shows tariffs dated as from the 2021/22 season and pre early-bird discount. If you head for https://www.skipass-tignes.com/fr/tarifs-hiver-2023 or for https://www.skipass-tignes.com/ and navigate via 'consulter nos tarifs' you arrive on a page with season pass price at €990 and this appears available to buy...


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I'm not sure what's happening, yes it looks like those are last year's prices, but as I alluded to I don't remember the branding Liberte. There was a 6 out of 7, but it was more than a six day pass.

I wonder if someone has pressed publish without proof checking (or maybe its a bit like Tory tax policy wink )
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Checking the link again(!)
https://www.skipass-tignes.com/fr/tarifs-hiver-2023
Daily lift passes have gone up €3 per day, so a 6 day pass has gone up by 18. Season passes have not gone up. Agecranges and family discounts have not changed.
The word Liberte seems to have disappeared.
I'm going for a lie down!
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It was the usual monthly Val d’Isere council meeting yesterday and the change in lift pass prices was one of the main topics.
The 22/23 prices were voted on in April but due to the increase in energy costs they are reverting back to the 21/22 prices with a day pass 63€ and 378€ for 6 or 7 days.
They also noted that the Tignes council meeting is on 20 October and the same prices should be adopted by them.
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Deluxe double room at the new club Med in Val Claret 25/12-1/1 for £6858 for 2 pax but, good value, it includes the lift pass, phew!
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^^^ As well as (according to the website) all inclusive food and drink, leisure activities and snowsports lessons.

Who's going to win the award for first Snowhead to try it out? (Not me - we'll be sticking with our self catering shoe box Laughing )
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@Grinning, My apt running costs are less than that for a year! But then I do have to Hoover!
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£6,858! I expect to cover an entire season with that - and still have change!
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End of free parking in Tignes... ?

Parking in the open air car parks in Les Brevieres, Les Boisses and Tignes 1800 has traditionally been free, however, @chocksaway has alerted me to an update which quotes nightly rates for using the "closed outdoor car parks" in these locations. The phrase used kinda implies that another kind also exists, namely open outdoor car parks. I'll log an enquiry to clarify but may not be able to get the full picture until I'm out there late November.

https://www.tignes.net/sejour/parkings
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@bobski62, The phrase used for the outdoor parking implies to me that there are barriers around them, not that they are closed.
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That description only matches Montayes parking in 1800 as things stood last year, so I can't determine if they have now put barriers up on all the others or what...

In previous years the parking pages on the Tignes website specifically pointed out which car parks were free but does not do that this year, worryingly.
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Where is the Prarniod Valley webcam on the Val D'Isere side? Always wondered but never been able to place it
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zariel wrote:
Where is the Prarniod Valley webcam on the Val D'Isere side? Always wondered but never been able to place it

get to Le Fornet cable car and look up that valley away from Val. The webcam is on the Prariond refuge. The Bottom of that valley contains the gorge down which the Isere river flows to Fornet and into Val.
You can ski across to the refuge (if the gorge is skiable) if you head skier’s right down from Col Pers, off the back of the Pissailais glacier.
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I've had a reply from Tignes and they confirm that "rates and conditions are no longer the same as in previous years". They sent a link saying information on parking can be found here: https://fr.parkindigo.com/parkings/tignes-france but there's really not a lot on this site right now, just a short list of some of the car parks: Lac 1 2 & 3, Montayes, Boisses and Brévières Sud. I'm assuming that the others are not on there because they are still getting web stuff set up.

So my thoughts at the moment are that we should expect the previously free car parks to now be chargeable and I will try to get more info on all of that end of November. What with the link they sent, it also looks like they have sub-contracted parking operations to a new partner.
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chocksaway wrote:
https://www.skipass-tignes.com/fr/tarifs-hiver-2023
Season passes have not gone up.


Disappointing but unsurprising: https://www.valdisere.com/en/ski/ski-passes/ - awaiting confirmation and not yet on sale…

The cost of the season pass appears to have dropped but it isn’t a “season pass” anymore - the “Winter pass” (for the rest of the season) is not available until 17 Dec.
From opening on 26 Nov to 16 Dec there are now only available “Start of season” prices with multiple day passes @52e per day.
The 15 day non-consecutive day pass is not available nor is the “Winter pass” at the “start of season”.

We’re out from early Dec meaning 10 days @52e followed by a “season” pass @990e = 1510e total so, unsurprisingly, the cost of skiing from the “start of season” to the “end of season” has gone up.
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@Grinning, I'm a tad confused. What is this? https://www.valdisere.ski/en/pass-saison
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@Dr John, that sir is indeed confusing being totally at odds with the page - https://www.valdisere.com/en/ski/ski-passes/ - and information that I posted.
Confusion and certainty will be forthcoming only when the passes go on sale.


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