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Rail travel to Dolomites

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HandyHand wrote:
How about a route with two sleepers? Caledonean Sleeper Thurs night Edinburgh-London, then Eurostar to Paris, TGV to Munich and Nightjet sleeper to Venice Mestre arriving Sat am for the ski shuttle to Arabba. Route to Venice as suggested by The Man in Seat61: https://www.seat61.com/Italy.htm#london-to-venice-by-sleeper. The ski shuttle is mentioned on the Arabba website (https://www.dolomiti.org/en/arabba/how-to-get-there/) but the timetable isn't published yet.

That's the sort of thing that I have looked at a few times for travel from North Cumbria. But it is not particularly cheap and when taking children it can be difficult to leave on a Thursday night and miss a Friday at school. Similar for the return trip.

I am not knocking it. just saying that it is sadly not a viable option for many.
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If you do the Innsbruck to Ponte Gardena (Waidbruck) route, beware you won't be able to use the Faster EC trains as they don't stop there. You would either have to change at Fortezza or Bressanone onto a local train or use local service train from Innsbruck and change at Brenner onto another local train. For both options you will need separate tickets for both trains which can be a pain.
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Caledonian Sleeper is not bad these days (new trains), and did that myself the other day. Bit steep in terms of prices, and the cabins a bit poky. Not sure what time the Carlisle pickup is (I only did the northbound journey).

I'd probably consider the new el cheapo Edinburgh-London service with the blue trains if I was going from there.

But it seems an awful lot of faff overall if going entirely by train from so far North, to a ski village with not very good train connections. If BB/PreBB were in Selva or like originally in Kronplatz, then train and a quick bus/taxi up 1 valley becomes a lot more appealing, especially if travelling only from London-ish (or Amsterdam, Germany, etc).

Good that people are looking at options though. For me, even coming from Frankfurt (ie half way there), it's still just a bit to inconvenient/impractical. Best for me is blag a bonus day off work, do the Frankfurt-Graz/Villach OeBB Eurocity to Munich (once daily), then the Munich-Verona Eurocity service to Ponte Gardena/Waidbruck (every 2 hours?), then blag local transport. Or get off that last train at Fortezza? and take the Pustertal/ValPusteria train to Brunico or San Lorenzo, where there may be a local bus up to Corvara and a cab over the pass to Arabba.
There was another train I found but it's something daft like 7am at Innsbruck to go home and losing a day skiing to travel 1/4 of the way home.
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Love all this train travel conversation. When you do take these trips please let me know. I'd love to feature a report on how it went on www.skiflightfree.org

I'm off by train to Val Thorens, Verbier and Meribel this winter - simpler journeys, but all via Paris on Eurostar
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I just love going skiing by train, I pour over Seat61 for hours.
It might be the the most direct route but...
London -> Paris
Paris -> Zurich
Zurich -> Trivano (Bernina Express)
Trivano -> Venice
.... It will be an adventure.

If you buy your tickets in advance you can get a great deal except on Eurostar
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@DrLawn, i think you can get fairly good deals on Eurostar if you book in advance, i just did a quick search, fri eve departure and sunday return, taking into account a trip to the alps.

you can seem to book at least upto next june on eurostar if required

i put in for roughly feb half term dates, and they came out to be approx £100 return, where same trip for a couple of weeks time were about £250 return.

the issue i have always found when trying to look at rail journeys to the alps, is that although you can book the eurostar quite a bit in advance, it has been hard to plan the french side as the sncf timetable release has always been hit and miss.

i could not "test" book any tickets on the french side on either the SNCF or Trainline website.

you cannot even book tickets sncf for december at the moment!!


so potentially you could be taking a risk that any services could be running, although unlikely, to suit your requirements Puzzled Puzzled
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Hi @terrygasson,
Yes the problem is that Eurostar have a similar booking agenda as low cost airlines ... book ASAP and then watch the price increase.
But SNCF, DBahn and SBB only want to take booking 2 months in advance. (best check what Seat61 says)

The European railways offer fantastic discounts for early booking.
Paris -> Zurich , I'm not sure if they are (just checked its back on) at very reasonble prices even for 1st class
Zurich -> Trivano (Bernina Express) could be done for as little as €29 single ... amazing ... if you book it via DBahn (See seat61)
Italian trains are just as cheap as chips.
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Guess what ... I'm going by train in February half term.
I left it a bit late to book a reasonably priced flight to Geneva or Zurich (Half Term)
So I ended up buying some pretty expensive rail tickets.. but my misses will enjoy the trip more if she does not have to sweat about flying home.
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