 Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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4 new posts today ; 15 this month.... the moderators must be busy... 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I thought when they don't like peoples' ideas they get kicked out, so they will hardly welcome comments from all past members will they.
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@ster, It's not an official SCGB(r) group - even I'm a member for a chuckle 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@MorningGory, don't worry, it soon will when Tony gets to hear about it using the words "Ski Club of Great Britain", then the purge will begin.
It could even be a "Hundred Flowers Campaign" by SCGB to see who the dissenters are then eliminate them.
Last edited by Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do. on Mon 15-08-22 22:19; edited 1 time in total
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Guess the Super Club for Great Blokes is dead in the water then....
Trademark Tony winner of all the important battles.....
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I am a member of the Schnuazer club as it happens, and we are not happy at being steamrollered by Trademark Tony. We have had several people turn up at our dog shows in ski gear recently and it is very awkward having to ask them to leave.
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Isn't this @pistoff's, group?
Can't view it as not on Facebook. Anyone care to enlighten us what's going on?
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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| adithorp wrote: |
Isn't this @pistoff's, group?
Can't view it as not on Facebook. Anyone care to enlighten us what's going on? |
Previously know as = "Ski Club of Great Britain: Members and Council" : Tom is Admin
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| adithorp wrote: |
Isn't this @pistoff's, group?
Can't view it as not on Facebook. Anyone care to enlighten us what's going on? |
Not all that exciting. Trademark Tony applied to TM the letters SCGB. Schnauzer Club of GB objected not unreasonably but apparently agreed to let Tony have it in return for a free licence (or whatever) to use it in their own field. The Shotgun Club of Gretna & Borders will probably be upset when Tony comes down on them like a ton of bricks but then they'll have shotguns....
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Honestly, you couldn't make it up.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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All a bit of a dogs dinner 
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@adithorp, 
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You know it makes sense.
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As part of the agreement all Schnauzers will receive complementary membership of the ski club of great britain; and all ski club of great britain members will reciprocally receive a free Classic Schnauzer haircut - "close cropped hair across the body, with hair on lower legs, beards and eyebrows left long", and a worming tablet.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@Richard_Sideways,
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Poster: A snowHead
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TT’s explanation posted on the SCGB members past, present and future Facebook page…
“…The Ski Club of Great Britain(r) applied to register SCGB(r) as a trademark as there was documentary evidence of the club using the designation S.C.G.B.(tm) since at least 1913. This registration came to the notice of the Schnauzer Club of Great Britain who had been using the mark since 1929. The normal way of approaching these things in 'trademark land' is for the other party to file an opposition, which they did, and put things on pause while the two parties enter into negotiations. The alternative would be to go to trademark court which is an expensive exercise and, in my opinion at least, would not have been a good use of member subscriptions. As the two organisations have been trading simultaneously for over seventy years in blissful ignorance of the others existence there seemed to be no possibility of confusion on the part of consumers. Hence, the Ski Club board agreed to enter into a cooperation agreement so that the Schnauzer Club could continue to use the mark, after which their opposition was withdrawn. The UK IPO were happy with this and so the SCGB(r) mark is now a registered trademark of the Ski Club of Great Britain(r) with the Schnauzer Club of Great Britain as an approved user. I hope this explains things. The 'Stray Cats of Great Britain' have not approached us for a similar cooperation agreement as, as far as I am aware, this designation is only used in references on the web and no formal member's organisation exists as such. However, the opposition period has now expired so if they did appear then they would be required to take out a formal license to use the (now) registered trademark. Representatives of the Stray Cats of Great Britain could not be reached for comment as they appear to have strayed.”
..Nick
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Tue 16-08-22 14:59; edited 1 time in total
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Interesting that Trademark Tony let's slip the veneer and refers to "consumers" rather than "members". I mean that's usually why trademarks need to be protected and litigated - businesses not wanting others riding on their revenue train.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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…a good use of member subscriptions.
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Subscriptions which pay for his time and ‘services’
Silly C**** of Great Britain!
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Is this what an entrepreneur, brilliant incubator of new start ups and a Fellow at Clare Hall spends his time doing? Well done, it could be quite confusing for consumers/members when being faced with SCGB being used by both the Ski Club and the Schnauzer Club.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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You'll need to Register first of course.
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Hey, who KNOWS how many people have been put off from taking up winter sports and got sucked into the seemy (and fuzzy) underbelly of the Mittelschnauzer, Riesenschnauzer, and Zwergschnauzer...
**update** in researching the above, I got ABSOLUTELY sucked into the Schnauzer site.... the names are... BRILLIANTLY INSANE!
IMHO 'Miccosukeees In Cahoots with Kathalan' was a most worthy winner of the 'Open Bitch' class at the 2022 SCGB Open, although how 'Violis Wait N See' beat 'Dayporium The Conjurer at Jennayr' in miniature dog is beyond me...
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I would hate to think of the confusion that could arise with the Scatological Club of Great Britain.
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I hear the Swinger's Club of Great Britain is also concerned, they have already trademarked "Go Skiing"
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Are he/they trying to prevent anyone else in the UK using the initials SCGB, or just anyone in areas relating to winter sports? If the latter I wouldn't have thought there was much overlap with the Schnauzer Club, so unclear why they had to reach an agreement. If the former there are quite a few other users of those initials*, so it could get interesting.
*Serbian Council of GB, Serama Club of GB, various companies using those initials for products (who may have much deeper pockets), various medical uses, ... They are probably lucky that the unconnected company actually called 'SCGB Ltd' appears to have been wound up earlier this year - perhaps someone should register something similar.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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I imagine he came to an agreement with the Schnauzers for a free license to use SCGB as it was in the period when an objection could be raised to his Tm application and could have complicated his registration. Now that that period has expired and he has the Tm don’t expect him to be so generous, this look like is just a land grab to try to get other SCGBs to pay but I guess protects the SkiCGB from someone doing it to them.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Can someone start the Snowboard Club of Great Britain and see what happens? Would it be like gluing a slice of toast, butter side out, to a cats back and dropping it out of a window to see if it lands, of just hovers above the ground spinning?
If the Universe ends, don't blame me.
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You know it makes sense.
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Surely SCGB = Snowheads Club of Great Britain?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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There was a Snowboard Club UK - presumably a bit more inclusive as encompassed Northern Ireland.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Oblos wrote: |
| Surely SCGB = Snowheads Club of Great Britain? |
Trademark Tony has already tried to TM "snowheads". His excuse was "ski club 2.0" in the banner and therefore must be part of SCGB
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Asking for a friend, but has any of this legal activity actually done anything for their subscriber numbers or profitability?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| adithorp wrote: |
| Oblos wrote: |
| Surely SCGB = Snowheads Club of Great Britain? |
Trademark Tony has already tried to TM "snowheads". His excuse was "ski club 2.0" in the banner and therefore must be part of SCGB |
His whole attitute there was curious - he was basically saying he was dim enough to make the mistake rather than malicious which his CV rather belied. But then he doubled down on arrogance rather than contrition. Clearly he still believes there is value to the members in these IP protection activities, fiddling while Rome burns rather springs to mind.
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Having your IP sewn up neatly in a bag makes selling it on as a brand-package with all the goodwill much easier, if that's your intention...
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@Richard_Sideways, But is there really any IP?
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@MorningGory, a trademark counts as IP
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Sure but I can't see it has that much value.
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Perhaps - but it can be marketed, packaged up, and sold.
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TUI's brand history is worth a look, and suggests that the value of package-holiday retail brands isn't massive.
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| Richard_Sideways wrote: |
| Perhaps - but it can be marketed, packaged up, and sold. |
With a healthy commission for those involved in the sale; and 3rd party advisors and consultants.
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