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Hello, I am planning to go to switzerland next winter season to work as a ski instructor but I am not sure about which resort to choose. I am looking for a resort that it is more french speaking if anyone has any recomendations would be much appreciate it. I would like to know about the mountain and prices a bit, cause I know everything in switzerland is crazy expensive but I do not really know what to expect. Thank you very much to everybody
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@lilly_ski,
May seem a glib reply but:-
Any resort where you can get a job as a ski instructor.
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The two Alpine Cantons that are French-speaking are the Vaud and the Valais. If you go to a site like MySwitzerland.com they have pages such as the winter destinations which you can look through. The largest ski area in the Valais is the 4 Vallées (400Kms pistes) with Verbier as the hub and the satellites of La Tzoumaz, Nendaz and Veysonnaz. There are over 20 others including Crans-Montana and the Val d'Annivers (Grimentz, St.Luc and Zinal). I don't know the Vaud so well, but this includes Champéry on the western side - a gateway to the Portes du Soleil, and on the eastern side Villars, les Diablerets and Glacier 2000.

If you do an advanced search on the forum, you'll find a variety of threads discussing employment in Switzerland.

Going to Verbier to ski and saying that Switzerland is expensive is a bit like going to Nice mid-summer, and saying that France is expensive. It's a bit of a generalisation and obscures what is a more nuanced situation.


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It might seem obvious, but French speaking parts of Switzerland are close to France.

German speaking parts of Switzerland are close to Germany.

All of Switzerland speaks English.

The Italian speaking part of Switzerland is in Italy. Laughing
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All of Switzerland speaks English.


LOL!
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@lilly_ski, what qualifications and working rights do you have?

4 valleys or perhaps one of the portes du soleil (swiss side) resorts might work.
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stevomcd wrote:
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All of Switzerland speaks English.


LOL!


Hah hah exactly. No, they don't.
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swskier wrote:
@lilly_ski, what qualifications and working rights do you have?


This. If you are from the uk it will be much harder, if not impossible, no matter what qualifications.
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swskier wrote:
@lilly_ski, what qualifications and working rights do you have?


This. If you are from the uk it will be much harder, if not impossible, no matter what qualifications.


Yes, the process for employing non-EU foreigners normally requires that the employer justify why they can't find someone to do the job from within the EU or CH. It's difficult to imagine what special grounds they could apply, unless they were to specify native English language skills. But I doubt you'd find a ski school prepared to go through the hassle unless there was some very good reason that they wanted you.

If you do get in, the qualification level and experience might make a difference to the ski school - what pay rate and what sort or level of lessons, but unless you have the Swiss "Patent" you're not considered as "qualified" whether you have just a BASI level 1 or a 4 (or equivalent from other countries). It's entirely up to the ski school to determine if the think qualifications are needed, and at what level, providing they have the required ratio of Patent holders to other unqualified instructors.

As for resorts, most have been mentioned, but there are two other stations, Morgins and Champoussin, as well as Champéry, on the Swiss side of the Portes du Soleil, which is even larger than the Verbier area, and there's no restriction to remain on Swiss snow when taking lessons.

If anyone want to know specifics about teaching in Morgins I'll be happy to give more here or via PM as appropriate.
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I'll take a punt she has the right to work...English not first language?
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I think if you are talking about Swiss ski resorts, which are heavily tourist orientated, most people facing services will speak English regardless of location in Switzerland.

However, German is the predominant langange in Switzerland with French coming second. Most of the best ski resorts are in the French speaking park (in my opinion).

Italian is a long way the third language, and Romansh the fourth official language (although almost as many people in Switzerland speak English as their main language as Italian, it is not officially a language).
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@Bigtipper, most in-resort client facing perhaps but not, IME, e.g. doctor's secretaries, insurance administrators, really any non-tourist but essential admin.

Spectrum from e.g. Chamonix where you pretty much speak English everywhere to e.g. Disentis where it's handy to know a bit of Swiss German.

All I'm really saying is that you can't assume Happy
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Bigtipper wrote:
Most of the best ski resorts are in the French speaking park (in my opinion).


Verbier granted, but where else is better than Jungfrau Region, Davos/Klosters, St Moritz, Zermatt etc? I guess you've not visited them.
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@telford_mike, or Disentis/Sedrun/Andermatt, if we want another example?
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@telford_mike, So the OP should try Verbier.

I have visited and skied Zermatt, St Moritz, Flims, Verbier but not skied Davos (although I have visited the resort and had breakfast in McDonalds). Most people spoke English in Zermatt, very high proportion of Americans there. I do not speak much German.

Only tuition was a course in primary school at the local university. I won a single by Ian Dury and the Blockheads, "hit me with your rhythm stick". Not sure what that had to do with German. Only thing I remember from that time was the German for apple pie. (Apfelkuchen)

Pop charts were a bit lost on me back in those days. I really only started to get interested when I made recordings of the top 40 on radio 1 every Sunday. Never bought singles much.
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@Bigtipper, While it's clear that a tourist can get away with only speaking English in most tourist destinations, it's actually a world away from "everyone in Switzerland speaks English".

And yes, there are lots of Americans in Zermatt. So what? There are generally far more Swiss than any other single nationality, and that's true at all the resorts mentioned so far. (And yes, I've skied at them all).

To live and work as a ski instructor in Switzerland, with perhaps only a very few exceptions with British-run ski schools, speaking the local language to a reasonable level, and being seen to try to do so and to try to improve, is far more important than in France, although even there a lack of French after any period of time will be seen in a very poor light by, for example, the lift operators and secourists.
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@Chaletbeauroc, yeah but if you shout loudly at them and repeat yourself in english they understand, right?
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Only thing I remember from that time was the German for apple pie. (Apfelkuchen)


That and Kaiserschmarrn are all you need really.
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Chäschüechli always a stormer in the swiss german end
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Only thing I remember from that time was the German for apple pie. (Apfelkuchen)


That and Kaiserschmarrn are all you need really.
not sure about swiss cuisine, but in Austria life can not go on without Topfenpalatschinken... mmmh
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I recall eating sacher torte in a cafe in Vienna a long time ago. I was advised it was a must eat. It was not the apricot jam which made it different to chocolate cake, it was the way the sponge melted in your mouth and filled it with chocolate flavours.
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I wonder if our OP, @lilly_ski would like to comment on the feedback so far, or provide some more detail about what help they're looking for? If you've got a slightly negative response re the employment issues, it's only because in general, it's become increasingly difficult for UK citizens to work in Europe. But you may have special circumstances that make it more feasible for you. It'd be interesting to know: for example, you expressed a preference for the French-speaking Cantons - is that because you speak fluent French? Because if you did, that would change the situation significantly. Are you a good skier with an interest in earning a qualification or do you just want to get a lot of skiing before you startfull-time employment in a profession? Is any work you get just to earn supplementary money, or does the exercise have to be completely self-financing? And so on.

I appreciate the sensible strategy of not providing too much personal information in an online forum, but you will get more useful advice if you can be a bit more specific, and still retain anonymity.
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For me though, I think a combination of a sachertorte and a peanut butter layer cake would be heaven. Could be this....

https://thehappyfoodie.co.uk/recipes/nigella-lawsons-chocolate-peanut-butter-cake/
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swskier wrote:
@lilly_ski, what qualifications and working rights do you have?

4 valleys or perhaps one of the portes du soleil (swiss side) resorts might work.


I am a level 1, Austria's cert. An Anwarter qualification. I hold an european passport so I can work there, but apparently no longer than 90 days. Yes, 4 valleys sounds good. Smile
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lilly_ski wrote:
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@lilly_ski, what qualifications and working rights do you have?

4 valleys or perhaps one of the portes du soleil (swiss side) resorts might work.


I am a level 1, Austria's cert. An Anwarter qualification. I hold an european passport so I can work there, but apparently no longer than 90 days. Yes, 4 valleys sounds good. Smile


Not sure why max 90 days in CH with Euro passport? Due to Brexit they were short of English speaking instructors in Verbier last year. Contact the main ski schools - Performance, Adrenaline, New Gen, European Snowsport, ESS and they will be able to advise you. It’s not cheap but there are lots of young instructors doing it so must be possible.
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@lilly_ski, The 90 day rule is the period you may work without needing to have a residence permit. It's intended to be used by non-residents who do the odd bit of work in CH now and again, or new arrivals who are looking for work but haven't found a permanent position yet.

As an EU citizen with a job you are entitled to a permit, so there is no actual restriction.

As for qualifications, there are no actual rules (see my previous answer) but of course the Ski School will want to know all about your experience before they'd offer you a job.
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On "below deck" (on E4) the chef made a chocolate and peanut butter cheesecake for one of the clients. That looked quite tasty!
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Chaletbeauroc wrote:


As for qualifications, there are no actual rules (see my previous answer) but of course the Ski School will want to know all about your experience before they'd offer you a job.


Ski instructing is a regulated profession in CH and you have both federal and cantonal rules. Obviously cantonal rules vary between cantons. BASI L4 can get equivalence with the brevet fédéral and work independently. In general it is easier going than France.
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Quite a lot on nonsense being talked about here, with regards to teaching in Switzerland.

It is very hard to do independently, as you would need the Swiss Patent. There are agreements in place between Switzerland and UK that could potentially allow you to establish a business there, but the hoops are significant.

To work within a ski school there is no standard of qualification required, only that the responsible holder of the Swiss Patent considers you competent as you teach under their umbrella. Contrary to popular opinion, many ski schools are able to (and do) secure short-term working visas for staff from outside of Switzerland. I know a few Brits that have done this successfully. BUT - only teaching low levels/kids and in only getting consistent work in high season. So it is possible, but not really practicable as a full-time job.
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Hi Lilly
If you are looking for more info on Ski Resorts in Switzerland
feel free to check out our list
https://www.brealpa.com/travel-highlights/top-ski-resorts-in-switzerland

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