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 Poster: A snowHead
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Looking for a new plank. I've been happily riding my Burton Baron 167 (the old wide version of the custom) for what, maybe 15-17 years.

Me,50 (just) Been boarding for about 20 years usually 2.5 weeks per years.

Riding - all pistes groomed or otherwise, in-resort off piste, between the piste, on powder days, and sometimes on the rock hard trails between the trees trying to follow the kids. I'm not out in back country beyond resort boundaries nor hiking anywhere, and only occasionally follow the kids through the park, on the smaller kickers or mega wide easy boxes.

I'm quite a lazy boarder, but I like a fast base as I hate running out of speed on flats, and I like sharp edge that holds - I've retuned my baron to 3 degree side edge. The baron has been mostly great, though on steeper slopes, reds etc, if its a hard pack day I find the heel edge particularly skids out a bit on carves.

We always ski at easter, so I want a board that will hold a carve on the rock hard icy easter morning, but will also cut through the the big heavy mounds on the hot easter afternoons. Must be able to float in powder. I'm less worried about pop as Im not throwing massive airs, and Im not doing butters etc, though I like popping on and off the side with occasional little hits. I hate soft boards that get flappy at speed or flex themselves over every bump underneath, and want something stiff enough for short and long carves even on steeper pistes on hard pack days.

Currently I need to de-lard a little at around 14 stone 13. 6ft 1 to 6ft 2 height. Size 11 boots. (UK)

So.... Suggest me some boards, as I am way out of date on 17 year old baron !


I'd thought about the Bataleon Goliath 164 (stiffer version of the Whatever), but reading reviews I wonder if it might not have the edge hold for caving I want. Read some reviews about it skidding out, with the 3d base thing etc and needing a more aggressive edge in order to hold.
I then thought maybe Jones Flagship or Gnu Baked Country but wonder if these are too hardcore freeride for my needs.
Now wondering if a Custom X wide might fit the bill.

Cheers for suggestions of planks I could look out for/try.

Cheers.

G


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I’m about the same age and dimensions.

168w rossignol xv has been my all time favourite go to for the last few seasons.

Great edge hold and goes fast Eh oh! . Rides shorter than the length suggests. I haven’t ridden a flagship but have a solution which is pretty much a split flagship and it’s great but my money would be going on the Rossi

I also have a Jones frontier. Good all rounder but not as much fun as the Rossi
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Thanks I'll look it up.

I'd also thought maybe the Nidecker Thruster, however for some bizaare reason they won't/don't ship to the UK.
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I bought a Nidecker Blade from Allo Ski in Le Grand Bornand in January, main difference being that the Thruster has uplifted contact points on the nose and is a little stiffer. The shop owner Steve, who is an ex racer, rode the Thruster as his main board even though he has the choice of many boards including Rossignol, Korua and Jones. He speaks very good English so might be worth a call.

My previous board was a Rome Blur and I mostly live for carving, the Blade is a step up that I thought would be difficult to find. All the time I had it I was unknowingly nursing a busted acromio clavicular joint so I wasn't doing much other than piste cruise carving. I put a review on SnowboardingForum here: https://www.snowboardingforum.com/threads/nidecker-blade-review.272969/#post-3456942
This was the morning after I finally saw a doctor and he told me to rest for 3 months Very Happy
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If you try the Custom X, then take a look also at the Hometown Hero, which has more setback and than the Custom X plus taper and directional sidecut.
It's the first board I've ever had which rips in powder, and carves hard circles on hardpack.
I'm not a fan of the Flight Attendant, which doesn't tick any boxes for me.

If you're into carving tracks or powder, then I think the "fit" of the board is critical,
so trying stuff out is important. If you find something you like, try similar models from the same
designer to tune in on the best thing.
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My main board has been the Jones Flagship for about ... oh my god... 6 years now, and I really rate it, having come off a REALLY old Burton Triumph. Its the older version and Jones have been making it softer since then so its apparently more forgiving so I wouldn't reject it as "Too 'Core", but I do like a stiffer board. Have also heard very good things about the Rossi XV that @hang11 mentioned.

The other one I rate having ridden it at the Oktobertest was the K2 Alchemist, mainly because it felt a lot like the Jones - a strong progressive board for blasting around on and off the piste.
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I only bought the rossi because it was crazy cheap in an end of season sale and I wanted a new board to take to Europe for a couple of weeks. Blew me away how good it was for laying trenches and going fast in all sorts of varied conditions. Think I’ve had it for 4 seasons, don’t ride it all the time but would have put in over 150 days on it.

It’s getting a bit knackered but I’ll pre order a new one for next year after this season is over. Definitely my preference for inbounds days, out of a hovercraft, frontier and optimistic.

I use the frontier for when I have to take it easy with the other half, hovercraft only comes out for heli days and the optimistic mostly sits in a bag in the shed.
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Yes PYL.
To qualify this, I'm a skier that tries to keep up with a much better boarder. When he got the above mentioned tray it took his boarding to a totally new level on and off piste.
He's been raving about it ever since he got it...couldn't shut him up for years!
Apart from youtube videos I've not seen anyone carve as well on a tea tray. And it's as good off piste too he says.
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Interesting there's a few new suggestions that I'd not considered before.

Nice review of the Blade @BoardieK. I hope your joint has repaired, or is repairing well.

I'd never even consider and Rossignol before. Not sure why, suppose in my head I still naturally associate them with skiing and basic cheap beginner hire shop boards when I learnt (a long time ago!). The reviews of the XV look promising.

I'm not likely to have two boards on the go in my quiver so what ever I get is a one board trick.


One question I had was on testing. If I go to a resort shop and ask to test, my recollection (of hiring, years back) is most shops tend to focus on a couple or three brands, so its pot luck if they have what I want. When I bought my Baron I'd been given one as a hire board in Austria on the previous trip, knew I liked it, so did a web search at the end of the season and got a good of season deal from a UK online shop.

I'd not come across the Oktobertest before - is this a regular thing ?
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One of the bigger sized GNU Riders Choice might suit you.

I went from a 10 year old 163 stiff plank to a 157 Riders Choice. Was worried about the length (15st to 16st) but the bit of rocker makes it float and the serrated edge makes it bite in to hard packed conditions

Worked for me
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Gazzza wrote:

I'd thought about the Bataleon Goliath 164 (stiffer version of the Whatever), but reading reviews I wonder if it might not have the edge hold for caving I want. Read some reviews about it skidding out, with the 3d base thing etc and needing a more aggressive edge in order to hold.
I then thought maybe Jones Flagship or Gnu Baked Country but wonder if these are too hardcore freeride for my needs.


Reckon the Flagship is a great choice. I ride a Jones Ultra Mountain twin and love it, a friend is similarly pleased with the Flagship. Flagship has a touch more flex but still pretty robust.

162W or 165W would seem to be in the right zone for the Flagship.
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Too many boards out there to really make a recommendation, I'm also very much not a wide board guy.

Only comment I would make on all the boards mentioned above is that the Jones Ultra Mountain Twin is probably my least favourite board I've ever ridden (and I've ridden a lot). Cheap rental Rossignols included. Flagship wouldn't be far behind, but I'm reserving judgement as I only tested one of the very early ones. The more recent versions are probably a lot better.

Out of my current eclectic collection, you'd probably like an Amplid Souly Grail, Creamer or Paradigma in long/wide enough version. The Burtons I ride are probably too short/narrow (Free Thinker) or too shaped (Skeleton Key). Of the other stuff I've tested recently, maybe a Weston Backwoods or a Korua (can't remember which model). Sounds like you're basically looking for something grippy and turny.

For testing, basically forget it. Sadly, there are not a lot of specialist snowboard shops around with a good range. Tignes Spirit, as always, standing head and shoulders above most.
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stevomcd wrote:
Only comment I would make on all the boards mentioned above is that the Jones Ultra Mountain Twin is probably my least favourite board I've ever ridden (and I've ridden a lot).


Funny you should say that, as I would have said the same after the first weekend I had on that board. A different set-up (tweaking boots and adjusting bindings is all) changed everything and I've never looked back.

Not saying the board is for everyone, and quite possibly not the OP (hence my push towards the Flagship over the UMT), but I love it. Stable as you like at speed. Holds an edge like nothing else I've experienced. Its stiff, and maybe not so playful, but its 100% trustworthy.
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@Adam123, for me, holding an edge is all it does. Other than that it's just a lump. No fun. Plenty of other boards hold at least as good an edge and are a lot more fun to ride. The thing is, to really make a snowboard perform other than in pretty static carving, you need to be able to bend and twist it. It's not just all about edge grip - which is mostly down to the rider in any case.

I lost my rag with the UMT when I stopped in a mogul field and found myself suspended above the ground, with the tips of the board on two bumps. I'm 85kg and it wasn't flexing enough for my feet to touch the ground. @"&$ that.
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@Gazzza, there are so many boards to choose from so I'll recommend my ride GNU Mullair but I would focus on specifically on profile and type of board when searching. These are more important than stiffness par se. A stiff cambered board can be a different beast compared to a similar stiff hybrid board. My Mullair fits your bill but you might not like its ride. It handles it all but is a bit twitchy so for a one board quiver ride it may not suit you. I switch to my Jackpot when I want to do other stuff. How much taper if any do you want? These things can be the difference for picking the perfect ride. Also if you stick to the more well known brands you can sell it easier if you don't get on with it. JMTC. Good luck!
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