 Poster: A snowHead
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Well this might be handy. America's Ikon Pass now includes Kitz and Dolomiti Superski - by the looks of it you can do 5 days in each with no blackout days for $779 (about £560) or 7 days in each for $1049 (£760) but, of course, it also includes many places in USA and Canada, Japan, Zermatt and even Australia and NZ - some of them unlimited. For some of you globetrotters it might make mighty fine financial sense. For me, the Dollies and Kitzbuhel is atrractive but marginal as to whether I'd save money.
https://www.ikonpass.com/en/shop-passes
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I have the Ikon pass for 21/22 and was happy to see these quality European additions. Unfortunately, I've already made plans for St. Anton and thereabouts, in '22. I'll probably defer my pass to '22/'23. The funny thing about this pass, in regards to The Alps, is most resorts in the area are far less expensive than their American counterparts. A 5-day pass at Kitzbuehel during peak season is 264 Euro, while a 5-day pass Aspen/Snowmass is approximately $795-820/£573-591. If you live in Europe and plan on skiing in the U.S., it's definitely worth it, but less so, if you plan to ski only in the EU.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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if anybody wants an ikon pass college club discount code, PM me. I have some. This is better than the standard college discount.
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does anyone buy Ikon pass for the year 2022/23 with 4 European resorts at 7 days each looks like a good deal even I am not venturing to US/Canada. Am I missing something?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Anyone know whether they are likely to do any discount deals on the 22/23 pass? Does look interesting…
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You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
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Anyone know whether they are likely to do anything discount deals on the 22/23 pass? Does look interesting…
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Ikon gives a renewal discount until a deadline that is right around now but I haven't seen any other discounts geared towards the general public, and I don't expect to.
It is true that the Kitz & Dolo lift cost savings are comparatively scant vs the savings one would receive at Big Sky or Mammoth, so the calculus is different. The trick about Ikon and Epic passes is this: being honest with yourself about getting to those resorts--wherever they are--enough to make it pay. If you can do that they are a no-brainer.
For Yanks already making them pay over here to also get free action at K&D is icing on the cake. I almost wonder if they feel they're giving us "the sleeves off their vest", i.e. benefits that cost them nothing since they won't be used. I hope to be an exception.
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| Pruman wrote: |
Well this might be handy. America's Ikon Pass now includes Kitz and Dolomiti Superski - by the looks of it you can do 5 days in each with no blackout days for $779 (about £560) or 7 days in each for $1049 (£760) but, of course, it also includes many places in USA and Canada, Japan, Zermatt and even Australia and NZ - some of them unlimited. For some of you globetrotters it might make mighty fine financial sense. For me, the Dollies and Kitzbuhel is atrractive but marginal as to whether I'd save money.
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Why lock yourself into just 2 resorts? (and exactly 2 resorts, no less)
It makes sense for those who are going to ski in North America to have a couple of European resorts "for free". For others, it's a pre-paid lift ticket a year in advance. You lose all flexibility to go elsewhere. That's too high a price.
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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| Pruman wrote: |
| Why lock yourself into just 2 resorts? (and exactly 2 resorts, no less) |
To be accurate, the Ikon pass includes 4 resorts in Europe: Zermatt, Chamonix, Kitzbühel, and Dolomiti Superski.
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And those four are amongst the absolute Top Tier of global, let alone European, resorts.
Though it isn't for me as I have a tie to Verbier I can't see any reason to criticize (since it is IKON I gave that a z  )
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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The advantage of an Ikon or Epic pass for Euros is where you intend to ski in N America next season but may no know exactly where or fancy a bit of a safari or whatever else. The Euro destinations derisk your decision somewhat - even if the NA trip doesn't pan out or you only get out for 1 week you can still just about get payback by using it in the European destinations. Obviosuly if you are vague on intent and want to stay flexible on where you go in Europe, you don't buy - but then don't moan if you subsequently want to do a week in Whistler or Breckenridge or Aspen or Jackson and lift passes are "too" expensive - you'll have failed to fit the business model to your advantage.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Obviosuly if you are vague on intent and want to stay flexible on where you go in Europe, you don't buy - but then don't moan if you subsequently want to do a week in Whistler or Breckenridge or Aspen or Jackson and lift passes are "too" expensive
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But don’t moan if circumstances prevented you to go to North America, thus you’re then limited in where you can go in Europe just to barely break even.
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I can't imagine anyone moaning in the latter case - they'd just be glad to recoup on some of their punt that didn't work out
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You know it makes sense.
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No different from paying a bit extra when they found they have the opportunity to ski at Whistler/Aspen which they didn't think they would be able to earlier. Can't imagine why anyone should moan about it either.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| abc wrote: |
| No different from paying a bit extra when they found they have the opportunity to ski at Whistler/Aspen which they didn't think they would be able to earlier. Can't imagine why anyone should moan about it either. |
Oh but they did - see the Canada thread - difference between sunk costs and marginal costs. Coming from a Euro mindset seeing window or short dated lift rates is a bit of a shocker at the best of times regardless of the fact it is a fantasy for most skiers who plan ahead.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Dave of the Marmottes wrote: |
| abc wrote: |
| No different from paying a bit extra when they found they have the opportunity to ski at Whistler/Aspen which they didn't think they would be able to earlier. Can't imagine why anyone should moan about it either. |
Oh but they did - see the Canada thread - difference between sunk costs and marginal costs. Coming from a Euro mindset seeing window or short dated lift rates is a bit of a shocker at the best of times regardless of the fact it is a fantasy for most skiers who plan ahead. |
I totally understand the "window sticker shock". But that's just that, a shock, and a short moan.
The solution is quite handy: wait a year and buy the pass in advance, and plan that season to take advantage of what the pass offers in Europe. You are emphasizing "skiers who plan ahead", right?
That's entirely different from a euro skier buying the IKON pass in the vague hope they MAY ski north America, and got locked into only skiing 4 out of 400 possible European destinations. That's not much justification for buying the IKON pass as a pre-paid lift pass to ski those few resorts in Europe, when the saving don't amount to much (thanks to the relatively inexpensive lift pass prices in Europe).
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