 Poster: A snowHead
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Greetings fellow snowheads!
I'm aware that since the whole Brexit hoo-ha there's been an elephant trap of people being caught out by needing uk passports to be 1- valid for 6 months after date of travel and 2- not more than 10 years old when entering the schengen area. Have seen airlines deny boarding, presumably as they'd bear some responsibility if you are denied entry at eu customs at the other end? BUT, here's my (slightly hopeful) variant...
Mrs Gilo is due to fly UK to Republic of Ireland shortly, her passport is not due to expire until Feb 23 (fine) but is going to be 13 days over being 10y old  Technically a passport is not required to enter the country due to the common travel area. Ryanair require a "valid" passport to board though. So, does anyone have any real life experience of this? As Ryanair are just using the passport for ID purposes will they accept it is "valid" as a form of id or are they likely to apply Schengen rules, even though they dont apply to this journey.....? (yes I'm aware Ryanair rarely miss an opportunity to take the annoying course of action, hence asking on here having exhausted their "help" sections).
real life experience very much valued over ryanair rants, thanks in advance!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Ireland is not in the Schengen zone ; even then, Schengen zone only require 3 months validity on a passport. A valid passport is just that - Valid
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@albob, Incorrect. Also must have been issued withing the last 10 years. For example, With a passport issued on 31 May 2012, regardless of the expiry date, you will not be allowed to enter the EU from 1 June 2022.
Some passports can have a validity of more than 10 years beyond their issue date.
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You need to Login to know who's really who.
You need to Login to know who's really who.
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EU rules do not apply in the 'Common travel area'
". British and Irish citizens may present
any other document(s) that satisfactorily establishes their nationality and identity
such as:
• a valid passport or passport card (if the individual is Irish)
• a copy of the individual’s passport or passport card with their identity and
nationality clearly visible
• an expired passport or passport card, which Border Force is satisfied was
issued to the individual originally
• evidence of having obtained British or Irish citizenship.."
From .gov.uk
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@albob, true, but not really answering the question. Which is what in practice Ryanair require before letting you board a flight.
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You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
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Feb 23? Just apply for a new passport
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@ecureuil anything the officious agent wants that could be construed to be within the rules. Don't take a chance and just renew the passport
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The OP's problem is the his OH is travelling 'shortly' ; Passport office is saying 10 weeks turnaround currently.
OP could email Ryanair and get something in writing re validity of passport..
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From the Ryanair website so I bet they will want a passport
“Domestic Travel Requirements
Driving licenses are not acceptable for travel with Ryanair between the UK and Ireland. No exceptions will be made. The travel documents required for domestic flights differ from country to country.”
Maybe get onto their chat and see if you can make any headway with that
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Thanks all for the replies, but as noted the question is less “what are the legalities of entering Ireland” and more “does Ryanair know this”?
Tried their chat and sat on phone hold for over an hour……
Can’t be confident can renew passport in time…..
It all hangs on what Ryanair’s definition of a “valid” passport is! Hence hoping someone had done this 
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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@gilo, as no-one seems to know, perhaps:
- try their social media channels?
- if you don't want to risk being turned away, rebook with Aer Lingus / BA /ferry?
- pay ££ for an emergency passport renewal (if these are still available)?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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The approach here by Ryanair doesn't sound positive in this case.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-61220358
But who knows, Ryanair might only use the passport as ID and not a requirement of entry into RoI (if its not per the Common Travel area -I assume @gilo, is correct in this assumption) and/or the EU might relent on the strict interpretation.
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This is what Simon Calder/The Independent say who have been very vocal on the incorrect info that was given out by HMG and airlines. If your wife was travelling to Schengen her passport wouldn’t be valid because of the issued within 10 years rule but for travel to Ireland and non-EU countries it is. I think she should just arm
herself with the info and argue her case if needed. Or contact the Irish embassy in London for clarification.
What about non-Schengen EU members?
For British visitors to Ireland, there are no limits on passport validity. Indeed, a passport is not legally mandatory for British travellers to the republic, though some airlines insist on it.
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You know it makes sense.
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If Ryanair (or the agent in the desk) think they require it, I don’t think you’ll get far no matter what bit of paper you waive around on check-in. Those guys don’t have much decision making authority. It may be they hardly look at it anyway as its to Ireland.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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