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Have I read this right??!!! Lifted just now from the Daily Telegraph:
“. Norway, Sweden and Switzerland also dropped entry tests for vaccinated travellers, but from February 15 in France, if you’re over 18 and want to eat in restaurants and use a ski lift (and hold a pass vaccinal), you must have had a booster within four months of your second Covid jab, down from seven.
With the half-term break starting this coming weekend, parents can avoid last-minute panic and being caught missing a vital QR code by ensuring they are familiar with all the current procedures for travel and in ski resorts. “
IF this is correct, yet again my husband and I will be prevented from planned ski-ing in France at the beginning of March as we had our second jab last May and the booster in November - the earliest available we could get it in time. A gap of six months. Thanks, France. Thank goodness we traded a trip a few weeks ago in January to Italy - where, despite little snow - we were welcomed wholeheartedly. At this rate, i think we will give up France and all its ridiculous rules for good.
If anyone else has more info, that would be interesting….
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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From the French Government website - all requirements set out in English
'Since February 1st, 2022, in order to continue to be considered as fully vaccinated, persons aged eighteen or over wishing to enter the national territory must have received a dose of complementary messenger RNA vaccine no later than 9 months following the injection of the last required dose'
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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According to Crystal, you the criteria is that if the 2nd jab was >4 months ago, you need to have had a booster. See the pdf linked here:
https://www.crystalski.co.uk/travel-with-confidence/entry-requirements/
You probably should check with the UK Govt website, but Crystal do base their info on that. There's probably a French border one too, if you want it from the horses mouth.
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I would read this as meaning that if you hadn't had your booster you would need to be less than four months from second jab to be ok for restaurants etc. If you've had your booster, then you're fine.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Always go to the horse's mouth for your Covid info,
e.g. French government website. Or at least someone who knows what they're talking about like Eurotunnel.
Don't get worked up about a sloppy worded article in the Telegraph.
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Yep, thanks for info but am still reading it as it says. Eg “if you’re over 18 and want to eat….bla bla…. you must have had a booster WITHIN FOUR MONTHS OF YOUR SECOND COVID JAB. I think they need to make it quite clear, if it’s yay or nay. This announcement has only just been made and applies after 15th February.
My husband and I had our second vaccination on 7th May. Our booster was administered 27th November. That’s a gap of nearly seven months and falls outside of the new 4-months-between-second-jab-and-booster rule…..
Wish we’d just booked another trip this season to Italy (where they couldn’t have been more welcoming to us).
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HilbertSpace wrote: |
Always go to the horse's mouth for your Covid info,
e.g. French government website. Or at least someone who knows what they're talking about like Eurotunnel.
Don't get worked up about a sloppy worded article in the Telegraph. |
I hope so @HilbertSpace - you may well be right. Let’s hope so, for I’m sure many people on here are in the same vaccination boat as us,
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From the uk gov website
From 15 January 2022, adults who have been fully vaccinated for more than seven months need to demonstrate they have received an approved COVID-19 booster injection in order to access the “pass vaccinal” in France. From 15 February 2022, the delay for receiving a booster to maintain pass validity will reduce from seven to four months. This applies to visiting tourists and those residing in France. You can access the QR code for your booster in the same way as for previous injections.
The list of places which require a pass to enter is subject to change: the latest list for the ‘pass vaccinal’ is available on the French government’s website (in French). This currently includes, but is not limited to, leisure facilities such as restaurants, bars, museums and sport venues, including ski lifts, and long-distance transport.
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Basically, you need to have had three jabs, not two. (Some people who got 2 jabs but later during 2021 than most people still qualify)
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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It sounds like nonsense to read it in this way. Because it would mean that a bunch of older French people who got their booster in Dec/Jan after 5/6 months of second dose within the French rules then applying are no longer eligible for passe vaccinal with no chance of fixing it?
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195062 wrote: |
I would read this as meaning that if you hadn't had your booster you would need to be less than four months from second jab to be ok for restaurants etc. If you've had your booster, then you're fine. |
Exactly this ... nonetheless, it's a poorly worded post.
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@Kimski44 same vax-boat as you. My second was 14 Jun and my booster was 23 Dec.
The French TAC VERIF app is what FR restos/bars use to scan your NHS QR code/pass sanitaire. You can download the TAC Verif app to your phone and check your QR codes yourself. TAC VERIF no longer validates my second dose but my booster is all good! I’ve added the booster QR code to the Tous Anti Covid app but the NHS one works just fine.
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You know it makes sense.
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195062 wrote: |
I would read this as meaning that if you hadn't had your booster you would need to be less than four months from second jab to be ok for restaurants etc. If you've had your booster, then you're fine. |
+1
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Kimski44 wrote: |
Yep, thanks for info but am still reading it as it says. Eg “if you’re over 18 and want to eat….bla bla…. you must have had a booster WITHIN FOUR MONTHS OF YOUR SECOND COVID JAB. I think they need to make it quite clear, if it’s yay or nay. This announcement has only just been made and applies after 15th February.
My husband and I had our second vaccination on 7th May. Our booster was administered 27th November. That’s a gap of nearly seven months and falls outside of the new 4-months-between-second-jab-and-booster rule…..
Wish we’d just booked another trip this season to Italy (where they couldn’t have been more welcoming to us). |
Just poor DT reporting. There is no minimun "gap", once you are up-to-date or had covid this trumps all previous tests and jabs.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@Kimski44, I think you and the Telegraph are doubly confused.
First of all, what they mean is that after 4 months you will not be viewed as fully vaccinated until you get the booster. If you have the booster at 6 months or 9 months you will then be viewed as fully vaccinated. You just wouldn't have been post the 4 months until you are boosted.
And secondly, this applies to using the Passe Sanitaire/Pass Vaccinal, the French Covid pass but the NHS COVID Pass is accepted in France which afaik doesn't have that restriction i.e., you can still get the pass with two jabs and no booster.
The 9 months thing is to enter the country of France. So whilst you may have your NHS Covid Pass you can not get into France if not boosted within 9 months of second dose.
Perfectly understandable why people are confused.
Happy to be corrected by anyone if any of the above is incorrect.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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As several people have pointed out, you are reading this wrong. You need to either be double-vaxed + booster or double-vaxed within the last 4 months. The gap between your 2nd vaccine dose and your booster dose is of no relevance.
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Could you possibly cahnge the thread title so you don't further mislead people with inaccurate scaremongering.
I know the latter is the Torygrapgh's strapline but ....
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@Kimski44, We skied La Rosiere/La Thuile last week and the rules are definately being implemented more stingently in Italy than France. You need to show your Covid pass to use the lifts in Italy, mask wearing is enforce on lifts and of cause you have to present your Covid pass in restaurants. In France things were very lax. It definately feels safer the Italian side of the mountain
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1. I believe from a quick Google search that the 15 Feb change was announced in early Jan and brought into law later in Jan. The announcement hasn’t “only just been made”.
2. It is not specific to UK travellers, it is for everyone including the French themselves, and was introduced in a bid to get more people boosted. Nothing to do with wanting to make you feel unwelcome.
3. Hopefully you will see from other responses that you will be absolutely fine if you’ve had your booster! Go and enjoy France and remind yourself why you wanted to travel there.
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Your 2nd Jab is no longer valid if you had it over 4 months ago.
So you must get boosted. This was previously 7 months & 270 days rules.
If you had the 2nd Jab less than 4 months ago, then you are fine.
If in doubt, just use the pass sanitre app & look for a green tick
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I was panicking after reading the Torygraph, but have just activated my pass sanitaire app and got not only a green tick but confetti as well!
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Can I just confirm also that for your pass sanitaire app, you only need to add your booster QR code...? I tried adding my actual 2 jabs as well and it said I had already added them...?
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@AlpineAddict, Correct.
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At the moment adults accessing many facilities in France are required to show a vaccine pass (Pass Vaccinal):
https://www.gouvernement.fr/info-coronavirus/pass-vaccinal
The linked page is in French, but translates reasonably well with Google translate. It includes reference to a "time limit" for having received a booster dose. In simple terms, at present if your 2nd dose was over 7 months ago you need to have had a booster. This reduces to 4 months on 15th Feb.
The Pass Vaccinal is essentially just a QR code, which can be the latest one from the NHS App. You can choose to display the code to those checking in whatever format or on whatever medium you choose. No particular app is required. Personally, I printed and laminated the relevant QR code.
The app used for checking the validity of passes is TAC Verif. You can download this app and scan your QR codes to check which are valid (noting that the time after which you need a booster reduces on 15th Feb).
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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dklemm wrote: |
Kimski44 wrote: |
Yep, thanks for info but am still reading it as it says. Eg “if you’re over 18 and want to eat….bla bla…. you must have had a booster WITHIN FOUR MONTHS OF YOUR SECOND COVID JAB. I think they need to make it quite clear, if it’s yay or nay. This announcement has only just been made and applies after 15th February.
My husband and I had our second vaccination on 7th May. Our booster was administered 27th November. That’s a gap of nearly seven months and falls outside of the new 4-months-between-second-jab-and-booster rule…..
Wish we’d just booked another trip this season to Italy (where they couldn’t have been more welcoming to us). |
Just poor DT reporting. There is no minimun "gap", once you are up-to-date or had covid this trumps all previous tests and jabs. |
Are France accepting proof of recovery for entry? I've had two jabs but need the booster. But I also have proof of recovery from NHS also
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Entry is different from “pass sanitaire” for access to ski lifts, cinemas, restaurants etc.
Check the UK gov link posted above. Looks like they accept the UK proof of recovery for entry.
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